I am sure most will vote for what they own on their car..... and haven't tried every combo

I have koni/koni on my 5dr. Handling & ride are both far superior to stock....... I think any of the options would work better then stock. I would do some form of aftermarket springs and not use Viggen springs....

 

koni springs are made by vogtland (at least that's what i have been informed)

 

I'm under that impression as well

 

If the Koni and the Vogtlands are the same (since Koni doesn't actually make their own springs I believe it) I will combine the votes in the end.

 

I really like the Eibach/Koni combination I've ran in 2 different cars for +150k miles combined.

That said, like GM wrote, I haven't tried others, like the Koni/Koni combo. Read about sagging issues with those springs so I stayed away and spent the extra money on the Eibachs. They really do get stiffer as they compress, for times like if you're loaded for vacation or just have a a pile of stuff in the trunk it's nice not bottoming out.

 

If you don't need the adjustability of the Konis, you might want to consider Bilstein HDs and pair those with the Eibachs.

You'll save ~$75 or so and have a great setup. (I have the Konis and love them...)

 

It's not that I NEED it, I want it... lol That's why I didn't put the bilsteins as a choice. I want to be able to firm them up for when I feel like spirited driving and soften them for when Kristie and her sisters take the car for a day of shopping or we decide to take it for a long road trip somewhere, etc...

 

Then you know what you have to do

 

The lowering springs are going to make the biggest difference in the feel, regardless of the dampers. Putting on lowering springs is automatically going to compromise comfort in favor of improved handling.

On the plus side for the Konis, you can set them at soft and just increase them over the years to counteract wear...

 

The vert is such a wet noodle chassis, I wouldn't push even more shakes and rattles into it with lowering springs. Stock springs and Konis for me. If the Eibachs are softer than the stock Viggen springs - which I think they may be, at least in the back - I might consider those. Good luck.

 

Good point, look to chassis braces? The 6 point subframe brace made a big difference for my 5 door. #Disregard this, I suck at reading the first post#

EDIT: FOUND, it says intrax though, this looks exactly like my vogtlands did though.

 

Like gm said, I don't have any experience except for what I had on the NG. So, I recommend NOT Vogtland springs. The rears were almost completely compressed with nothing in the trunk. It just didn't seem quality to me.

I think there are comparison pictures out there of what the Vogtlands looks like compared to the Eibachs. Does anyone know where that is? I think that could sway most people in the correct direction.

 

I have Koni / Bilstein HD. No complaints.

 

I have a 9-3 'vert with the Eibach/Koni and roughly the same list you have (less the 6 pt right now).

I think it's outstanding like this. The Koni's let you tune it very nicely to your tastes for firmness and balance. I do find that once I get them set up for a certain combination of components, tires, and inflation that I leave it there (many years with them in the NG900).

The rear Eibach start out softer than the Viggen springs in the rear, but the top end is very high (progressive). All I can say is that it works and seems to correct many of the issues with the lame rear axle. Put it into a tight corner and it stays flat, up to the point of needing a g-suit and making your passengers motion sick. It's still not independent in the back, but it's very good.

It's also still very comfortable. The only bumps that seem more severe are those that cross the road and cause the whole front end to bounce. It recovers more quickly than stock, but it is a little abrupt in the recovery. Still, it's a small price to pay for a major improvement.

 

I've got Koni/Vogtlands on my NG vert and couldn't be happier (although I still need the subframe brace...). I was afraid that Milwaukee roads would be 10x worse with the lower, stiffer ride. You will want to be more conscious of potholes and bumps, but it is not as bad as I expected. I basically re-did my entire suspension when I installed the Koni/Vogtlands, poly bushed anything that wasn't, new strut mounts, wheel bearings, the whole nine yards. It cost a chunk of change, but man, was it worth it. The car is an entirely different creature, far more predictable in the twisties.

 

Since you've already done this when are you going to be in town next? I'd like either a ride or to take a short drive in your car to see how it feels.

I was planning on poly bushing everything when doing this as well, and doing new strut mounts.

Thanks for all of the input guys! I appreciate it.

 

Looks like I'll probably end up doing Koni Springs with Koni Shocks/Struts... IF They suck look for them posted in the FS section lol

 

Hi guys hope we are still using this thread
I've got a2002 se hot that I've played with lightly
Kind of a experiment rebuilt everything on the front end
Went with kybs and left the the stock springs just to see what that would do
I do have taliferos rear torsion bar big difference that made, the suspension is better lots better but still get a wet noodle feel now and then which the wife drives this ever day to work so I do want comfort for her...
Now the rest of the story ,,I have a 01 viggen convert that will be gone through stem to stern ...question can I totally eliminate that dreaded convertible softness or the noodle feel
With out wasting a huge amount of coin ? If so I'm out and will hunt down a 2 door
Thx just a little disappointed

 

Looks like there is many who support the Eibach springs choice, and I'm about to pull the trigger on them (because the front stock springs are broken). However, my question is whether I need to (or should) change the front shocks at the same time or just leave stock. This Viggen has only 90,000 miles on it, but since I'm paying for the labor for the springs being swapped, I don't want to pay for the same labor effort again when I have to swap the shocks.

Also, the difference in cost between Billstein Sport and Koni is $37 per damper. Is it worth the difference?

 

The stock dampers wont operate as well with lowering springs, it's suggested you also upgrade shocks at the same time.

 

Swap the shocks at the same time, the OEM ones with lowering springs will go out shortly after - especially if you already have 90k on them.