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Phosphate free car wash?

5.3K views 44 replies 25 participants last post by  aireeca  
#1 ·
I like to wash my car. Alot.


I also enjoy the lakes and waterways of my wonderful state. In my area of the city, the storm drains go right into the river. So when I lovingly hand wash my 900, all the soap I use basically goes right into the river.


I don't like that.

I plan on setting up a rain barrel under my downspout with a strainer to use for car washing and rinsing. Rain water is naturally soft, so there will be less hard water spotting, so that's cool.


As for the soap we have some eco-friendly dish soap in the house, but I don't want to use that because I think the degreaser in it will strip off the many coats of wax on my car.


Anyone?
 
#5 ·
I specifically look for a soap with the highest level of Phosphates in it when I purchase :) I live in PA though, we have rivers that run blood red from acid mine drainage. a little bit of Phosphates are not going to make things any worse, that's for sure! Plus there are landfills everywhere and we are next to NJ, cancer capitol of the world. with a good western wind, their cancer blows in our direction.

Honestly, I’d not worry about it ;) there are bigger environmental problems then people who wash their cars a lot.
 
#6 ·
I specifically look for a soap with the highest level of Phosphates in it when I purchase :) I live in PA though, we have rivers that run blood red from acid mine drainage. a little bit of Phosphates are not going to make things any worse, that's for sure! Plus there are landfills everywhere and we are next to NJ, cancer capitol of the world. with a good western wind, their cancer blows in our direction.

Honestly, I'd not worry about it ;) there are bigger environmental problems then people who wash their cars a lot.
yeah 'round here phosphate free soap is kinda like shutting the barn when the cows are allready downtown trampling children...

Paul
 
#11 ·
Don't ever wash your car with dish or laundry soap....bad bad bad!

I usually use Meguiar's Gold Class "shampoo" on mine....no idea if its phosphate free or not.

An easy way to reduce water spotting when you rinse the car is to do a final rinse w/o the nozzle on the hose.
 
#18 ·
I usually use Meguiar's Gold Class "shampoo" on mine....no idea if its phosphate free or not.
When we were planning SOC 2005 the venue required us to use a phosphate free wash, and I started contacting the different companies. I love Meguiar's Gold Class I have used it for about 4 years, and wouldn't you know its phosphate free.........
 
#12 ·
Palmer, why don't you wash it with water less, and wipe it down with a detail spray mroe often? Get a bunch of clean rags, and detail spray, and then go to town.

Or, bucket wash and rinse with another bucket and rag, that way you can collect the rinse and pour it down the sewer where I assume it is treated right?

Tboy
 
#13 ·
soap

all, the best car wash/shampoo out there is "beauty shine". i've used their products since 1967. small company out of ca.family owned.their vynal/leather stuff you can even put on your pedals.[try that w/armor crap] drys satin no dust stick.the waxes last&last.bead like he2xl. i think i'll set up a sales site here.i've won national porsche concours with this stuff. any one interested? burt [burtgillesartist@hotmail.com]
 
#15 ·
take the car to get it washed..... Proven to be more enviromentally friendly.

LINK
Wash Your Car But Protect the Environment
Washing your car on the lawn may raise the ire of your neighbors because it looks so....unusual. But it's better for the environment than washing it on your driveway.
The many different products we use to wash our cars are harmful to water quality and aquatic life. When we hose off the cars in the driveway, street or parking lot, the dirt and detergent flow along the gutter and into the storm drain.
How does grass help? By washing your car on the lawn, you are providing a filter for the soapy water. Grass and other plants absorb the chemicals and other contaminants, thereby reducing the amount of pollutants that ends up in the storm drain. The root systems of plants can tolerate much more than can aquatic insects and fish.
An even better option is to go to a commercial car wash. According to the May 2002 issue of Stormwater magazine, most commercial car washes use 60 percent less water in the entire washing process than a home wash uses just to rinse off a car. Although you will be missing out on the "fun" of do-it-yourself car washing, you will be doing your part to conserve water.

Virginia requires commercial car washes that do not recycle their water to discharge the water into the sanitary sewer. If the car wash discharges to a storm sewer, the operator must get a permit from the Department of Environmental Quality and meet monitoring and performance requirements. Home car washers have no such requirements, so dirty water goes down the storm sewer. Here is a reminder: Sanitary sewers go to treatment plants. Storm sewers go to streams.
 
#23 ·
I may be wrong, but as I understand it, the problem with phosphate is that it's a fertilizer. So you get that into lakes/rivers/ponds and feed algae blooms that kill everything underneath and deplete the 02 supply. Washing on your lawn like Steve posted may not be a bad idea.
 
#27 · (Edited)
No, the Barrel Man went out of business.

I'm not paying 50 fucking bucks for a barrel from some prick.


Fuck that.


And you.




Also, I still use Gold Class soap though.

I would tell you all about it and it's pleasing foam, but since you pay $$$ for bodywork, and then don't wash your car I don't think you would really be interested.