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#1 · (Edited)
so i have been reading up on it and i have a few questions

do you leave the shafts in and just plug the hole where the tensioner is with the gs balance shaft delete kit and take the idler off? or is that not how you do it

to me it seems like it would be better to just take the shafts out but i know then you would need to plug the oil feeds to the shafts.

so what im tryin to figure out is what is the best way of doing this.


and are the balance shafts the same on a 93 b234 and a 94+ b234
 
#9 · (Edited)
Im pretty sure Ive read around of people actually removing the shafts and plugging the holes without any issues. I dont think how removing a solid piece of steel that is doing nothing in there there would adversely affect oil pressure.

Edit:

Ok... now i remembered what he did. He used some engine caps(or something like that) to plug all the holes inside the engine that lubricate the bearings and stuff.
 
#14 ·
so i went to get my block hot tanked, honed and shit and they told me i should bore and hone the cylinder walls and said i have to wait till i get pistons. so my new question is if i were to get the je pistons from nick are the standard size 90 mm and if i were to get my cylinders bored would i go for the 90.5 or the 91. Im not sure what a standard bore is but im guessing i would just have to get the 90.5 if the 90 is the standard
 
#15 ·
If your boring and honing youll most likely need to go up in size. Decide what you want to go to and get the corresponding pistons. Wossner pistons are also another option as they have a speced piston for a 9000. Is that my old motor? Also leave the shafts in and plug the hole w your own or nick's plug. If your getting your motor balanced anyway it will not be an issue.
 
#17 ·
Im just saying that Wossner has a piston for use w/ 9ks. Mike C. from Conntech said he preferred the wossner to the JE as he has build motors w/ both. And yes a motor balance is and including the crank and flywheel and pressure plate and drive pully. What are you looking for power wise?
 
#21 ·
I got mine (pistons) through ConnTech in RI. Call up and ask.

My local engine builder works on Saabs and has since the 70's. He recommended the balance which he does on all higher HP builds. I bet if you did all the same things to 2 identical 2.3 motors except balance one, the balanced one would run smoother.
 
#24 ·
just giving my opinion on balancing, my motor is very very smooth. I payed right around $550-575. I had the first true 9000 wossners in the states. Most people before me were using 9-5 pistons. The site says $550. Thats even cheaper than JE. Again I chose to balance because I was going for higher HP
 
#25 ·
ok ill keep that in consideration. i think im tryin to rush my build to much if i just wait and take my time i will balance it. im about to sell my cs that ur tranny is in and i was going to buy pistons with that.

i gotta get my crank flywheel pp, and crank pully all ready if i want to balance
 
#27 ·
Ok, just in case you decide to remove the balance shafts while you're there. Here's what my dad did, following someone's write up at a forum or webpage... not sure where...

First he removed the balance shaft and left the bearings inside the engine. Then he went and bought a huge socket that fit through the balance shaft's hole. He had to take the socket to a friend's machine shop to have it fixed so it got to the bearings and did not get stuck in the engine. He measured the final position of the socket + balance shafts when in the engine against the bearings. He then added about 6.25-6.50 mm to that, and then pushed the bearings that much, so that the bearings would block the little holes where oil goes through. He used the same caps from the balance shafts and got them filled and soldered in order to plug the holes, the one in the pic was one that broke though. I included some pics, but they kinda suck. Any questions just let me know.
 

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