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Robert Blagojevich, 54, has pleaded not guilty to taking part in any scheme involving the Senate seat and to scheming to pressure businessmen for campaign funds.

Raising both arms over his head, he said loudly, "I've said it once and I'll say it again - innocent of all charges." Some spectators laughed, others shook their heads.

Blagojevich expresses bitterness, saying he has done a lot for the people of Illinois and gotten little back. He cites poll numbers that show his support at all-time lows, and directs his ire at his constituents.

"Only 13 percent of you all think I'm doing a good job," he said on tape, sounding increasingly angry. Then he denounces the public as a whole. "(Expletive) all of you," he yells into the phone.

Having a bad hair day Rod?
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Politics as usual.
 

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F'ing hilarious. Blagojevich is the poster boy for everything that is wrong with American government and politics in general; Compulsive liars, demagouges, and big $$$ corruption. Obama needs to mop up this kind of shit! In fact, somebody should awaken Thomas Nast from the grave because we need some Teddy Roosevelt "big stick"-like political cartoons, except in current ones we'll see a massive Obama in stereotypical black attire with a mop and mop bucket go apeshit on senators with title "clean up."
 

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Oh boy, the old dems vs republicans war. They're both effin us. And all the third party solutions are fractured, segmented, and silo'd.

The last 8 presidents (along with congressmen, senators, and all the other republicrats) have sold us down the road for private interest, lobbying, kickback sucking, motherf*#king, money whores that have taken over this country that I love. Bastards. They've allowed this country to be invaded- unprotected borders- by illegals instead of making them stand in line and go through all the proper channels to become an American citizen.
There are alot of citizens of foreign countries that have gone through all the proper channels and are waiting their turn. It's like someone cutting in front of you at the bank, supermarket, or DMV. And when our infrastructure finally implodes (as witnessed in California already) we'll have to slam the door shut on the legal aliens that want to become an American.
So, the dems want the illegals to pour in because when (not "IF") they are given amnesty, they can become registered Democrats and ensure the stranglehold now being felt by concerned citizens will continue.
And the GOPOS's will have endless cheap labor due to supply/demand ratios that will maximize their buddy's corporate profits if our economy ever starts to recover so that double digit inflation can keep us in debt and so worried about our future that they can pull more sneaky shit. Whew. Rant. Yeah.
Both parties are trying to redistribute wealth- one upwards and one downwards.
But don't worry, Sarah "Paris Hilton" Palin is going to organize the Mama Grizzlies to rise up and take back our government. Eye candy for the guys. The gals had Bill Clinton for eye candy, so why can't we have some candy too?
Now we see intimidation at voting polls, like some third world country, where some club wielding guy is yelling that the crackers and their cracker babies need to be killed. The DOJ is going to dismiss that case because it needs to concentrate on that radical Arizona decision where they adopted a federal law that should have protected us from being overrun by illegals. Violent crime has skyrocketed in Phoenix, the #2 kidnapping capitol of the world, second only to Mexico City, Mexico.
Now Fox is reporting on the illegal that committed a triple murder as part of an initiation to MS-13, a "gang" that exists in 42 states that is known for recruiting illegals. He shot an innocent citizen in the back of the head and is shown smirking in the courtroom while being arraigned. Oh, BTW, that's in NJ.
The Guy from Boston is right. We need tougher laws. Let's start with the immigration laws. It's never too late. He's crosseyed, spittin' pissed. And Epic.
 

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I think that politics in general has become a fucking joke. We'll never have representation or presidents like we had in early American times because the whole political landscape has changed so drastically (culture, gov't involvement, employment profiles, cost of living, size of country,etc).

Everything now is so interconnected that it's just become a big tangled mess. In the mess, almost all of our politicians come from spoiled families and free rides. I don't care what any politican says, they don't know the middle class American. What's worse is that true representatives of the majority of the American population will probably never see office as a big time education and rich family name are the obvious prerequisites. They'll make it to town office or county board, but never to the place they need to be. We have wrong fits across the board, in both parties.

In the 1800's and even early 1900's, it wasn't the same. I'm not saying there wasn't corruption or lying politicians, or that the rich didn't dominate office, but it certainly wasn't to the same degree as we see today. I like Obama, but I admit that he won't help much. The growing abundance of government in our daily lives has helped some but complicated the big, overall picture. It's over complicated a system that's pretty good, adding too many levers and influential people in the process.

We need to go back to a more laissez-faire system in the future, something that's not likely to happen.
 

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I think that politics in general has become a fucking joke. We'll never have representation or presidents like we had in early American times because the whole political landscape has changed so drastically (culture, gov't involvement, employment profiles, cost of living, size of country,etc).

Everything now is so interconnected that it's just become a big tangled mess. In the mess, almost all of our politicians come from spoiled families and free rides. I don't care what any politican says, they don't know the middle class American. What's worse is that true representatives of the majority of the American population will probably never see office as a big time education and rich family name are the obvious prerequisites. They'll make it to town office or county board, but never to the place they need to be. We have wrong fits across the board, in both parties.

In the 1800's and even early 1900's, it wasn't the same. I'm not saying there wasn't corruption or lying politicians, or that the rich didn't dominate office, but it certainly wasn't to the same degree as we see today. I like Obama, but I admit that he won't help much. The growing abundance of government in our daily lives has helped some but complicated the big, overall picture. It's over complicated a system that's pretty good, adding too many levers and influential people in the process.

We need to go back to a more laissez-faire system in the future, something that's not likely to happen.
x2. Except the Obama thing;)
 

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One of things that happened that the founding fathers never envisioned and is probably the biggest problem with the government are career politicians. Elected officials that have never done anything else. The framers of the constitution saw citizen leaders. Run, get elected, serve your term and go back to work.

I don't know where this came from, but I agree with it.

Congressional Reform Act of 2010

1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.

A. Two Six year Senate terms
B. Six Two year House terms
C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

2. No Tenure / No Pension:

A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, server your term(s), then go home and back to work.

4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they impose on the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/11 .

The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career.. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

9. No member of Congress, once served, may function or register as a lobbyist.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career.. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.

10. No member of Congress, once served, shall accept any public appointed office or job that pays more than $100.00/year.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career.. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go home and back to work.
 

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^-I agree exactly with the term limit thing. Washington set the precedent with the Presidency and after FDR, they instilled the 2-term limit. The same should be put into practice in Congress. We need constant rollover as times are changing so rapidly. It's far too easy to elect the incumbent every 2, 4, or 6 years. Time to grab our pitchforks, light our torches, and march on city hall (although 98% of the population, including me, has no idea where city hall is).
 
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