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Actually TSL was created because of the excessive censorship and banning, done by the admins on that site's forum. They don't allow their users to express their opinions freely to other members, or give feedback about the admins without locking or deleting posts. They also don't allow advertising which is key to expanding and having aftermarket parts made for any car. Advertising by either users or companies opens doors and opportunites which TSL is about.

Despite numerous attempts to speak to the admins regarding their forum, they either ignored or simply banned those who tried to communicate intelligently to them regarding issues on their site.

I personally do not reccommend this site's forum due to its unfair and unethical censorship, however the main pages of the site are very informative and constructed well. Given time, TSL will host more and more information as users register, a Group Buy section will emerge, and discounts will become available for being a registered TSL member. 8)
 

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here here! I've had over 20 post deleted in the last 2 weeks for NO reason!!! not to mention PM's blocked from being sent! I used to Love Saab Central, but now they are just a decal on my rear window :( You guys need a Decal ;)
 

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Sorry to hear that about Saab Central, but they have become quite censored. I will definately look into getting decals for TSL members.
 

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rather then a Decal Decal, the Re-usable Window Clings are really neat. Like Saab Scene's I like theirs cause you can always move it, or put it on a different Saab. But just make it visible and bold ;) but not too big. I would be happy to help you design one if ya wanted help. Or just help contribute opinions.
 

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Just saw this post. Agree 100% about the mods. Having been banned myself before with no reason given, I know how you feel. I like the tech help and layout, but some of those mods (including the main admin)... lets just say they are not the type of people who I would want for friends. Random thread locks by mods who find a thread "boring" are a regular, and while they claim not to ban people very often (and give 3 warnings when they do) I know for a fact this is not true. I was banned with no warning, no e-mails, nothing… I will still post on saab central, and I will give advice. I even like the layout. My only problem is the administration, and there is nothing I can do about that. I think that the mods honestly think that there is nothing wrong with the way they run the site….. They need to take a hint from places like www.ifsja.org, www.j-body.org, and this site. banning and thread locking is really not something that should happen... unless there is EXTREEMLY unusual circumstances... while sites like saabnet border on extreme censorship and lack of freedom of speech, saabcentral is much better than them... I shall give them that credit. I personally like freedom of speech. Use saabcentral, and you won't have it. all it will take is a viewpoint that a single mod does not like, and you have a good chance of being banned. I know 1st hand...
 

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DeLorean said:
Just saw this post. Agree 100% about the mods. Having been banned myself before with no reason given, I know how you feel. I like the tech help and layout, but some of those mods (including the main admin)... lets just say they are not the type of people who I would want for friends. Random thread locks by mods who find a thread "boring" are a regular, and while they claim not to ban people very often (and give 3 warnings when they do) I know for a fact this is not true. I was banned with no warning, no e-mails, nothing… I will still post on saab central, and I will give advice. I even like the layout. My only problem is the administration, and there is nothing I can do about that. I think that the mods honestly think that there is nothing wrong with the way they run the site….. They need to take a hint from places like www.ifsja.org, www.j-body.org, and this site. banning and thread locking is really not something that should happen... unless there is EXTREEMLY unusual circumstances... while sites like saabnet border on extreme censorship and lack of freedom of speech, saabcentral is much better than them... I shall give them that credit. I personally like freedom of speech. Use saabcentral, and you won't have it. all it will take is a viewpoint that a single mod does not like, and you have a good chance of being banned. I know 1st hand...
This seems to be a real trend about SaabCentral. Im thinking about sending this link to the admin about the views of the excessive censoring on his site. I wish they would be more professional and accept positive critisim rather than being defensive when someone gives a suggestion. Thats why TSL has a suggestion forum ;)
 

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Don't waste your time, he'll only ignore you. Rember, the pole probably reaches his brain by this point..... given how many times he's sat on his self confidence and that pole, it just hasta be that far.
 

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haha you guys are funny. I like the part with the pole. :twisted:

I like it here & don't think i'll go over there but you guys censor here too. :x Just when I got here there was some post about how things got deleted . I alomst missed out on it.
 

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haha you guys are funny. I like the part with the pole. :twisted:

I like it here & don't think i'll go over there but you guys censor here too. :x Just when I got here there was some post about how things got deleted . I alomst missed out on it.
dude - lay off that, it was going too far. How would you like to be sitting at work browsing this site on your down time, open a link to "graphic content" and have your boss walk by?! And If you think that we are censored, fine - do what ya want but stop trying to create trouble. That post is still open, note how it's NOT locked or deleted.
 

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I mean really... if that had been posted on SC the thread would have been gone, & the user banned. give me a break, it was just taken too far :shock:
 

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Give him a break guys. He'll see how much less censored we are compared to others.. In fact thats the only thing we've censored so far :)
 

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i saw this thread, and i just had to post, i have had tons of bad experiences with sc, someone posted a picture of a car accident or something, and i said that they were probably high, drunk, f-ing around, or not being responsible, and they deleted my post, and locked the thread, and that really pissed me off, cause what i said really wasn't that offensive, i mean, it's not that bad is it??

ok, you are flipping out because they deleted a porn picture big deal, you want porn go to www.naughtypuppets.com or www.aol.com lol

burnsside42, good joke with the pole, i usually say something like that except instead of a pole, i say a shampoo bottle in the shower, or pineapple at the store... ouch

as much as i dislike the sc mods, i must admit, their site is very knowledgable, and helpful at times, but i do wish i had a tsl decal to replace the three on my car.... window cling would be very nice....

and blaque_out, you should serriously reword what your first reply says:
I personally do not reccommend this site's forum due to its unfair and unethical censorship
that can be taken in wrong was about this site and not that site, but i understood what you meant.

also blaque, are you really gonna post a link to this thread on their forum??? that'd be cool, i check that site everyday, post it in the lounge, i want to see how fast it get's locked, lol

~justin
 

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Oh wow!!! SC, is actually changing their terms :shock: Maybe their users finally initiated some change :roll:
 

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Oh wow!!! SC, is actually changing their terms :shock: Maybe their users finally initiated some change :roll:
I would not have thought so.

Any way you have changed your tune with regard to moderating.

I notice that not only have pictures and posts been deleted but also atleast 3 topics have been locked.

And that is on a site with NO moderation.

Before you guys flame anyone else or another site you must think why you are in the position you are in.
Basicaly because you could not seem to behave there as you are here, with a mild amount of common sence.

Maybe if you behaved over at SaabCentral and you were still posting there you would not be bashing them.

It is only because you(&others) acted like complete wankers that you got banned and hence have this problem with SaabCentral which after all is where you hung out for so long, so it can't be all that bad after all can it?

If i were you I would take a few moments to sort out whether you intend to continue bashing SaabCentral or behave like a normal person and do what you set out to achive, a better knowlage of Saab's for Saab owners.

I am sure that if you continue to bash SaabCentral then somepeople might start to do something about it.

Think about what you are doing now to control you website and then think just how much different you are from any other moderator on any other forum.
 

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And that is on a site with NO moderation
Sadly, even on a motoring related board, which isn't life or death, is it MickeyLifter - some sort of moderation will always be needed. As you know, your post above on the vast majority of motoring related boards, would lead to your banning, and the posts deletion. And rightly so.

There are different degrees of moderation, and in my personal experience, whilst do doubt masturbating whilst reading the SC boards, as you so eloquently put, the moderation on SC was not to my liking. It is not to several peoples liking, which is why a few people have found themselves here.

I'm perfectly happy to let people know why I was initially banned from your boards - let them decide if that is acting "....like complete w*****s ".

You must be a SC mod, otherwise you wouldn't know that we'd been acting "like complete w*****s". Catchy phrase there Mickey. In which case you are a shining example of why people have, and will leave your board in the future.

This is a Saab board, chill out for fecks sake :roll:
 

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I am sure that if you continue to bash SaabCentral then somepeople might start to do something about it.
What, like behaving a tad more reasonably on your own boards, and even vaguely reasonably on others!

So, SC mods are now posting threats? :roll: :roll: Smell the coffee, these are Saab boards we are talking about! Where's my incredulous(sp?) smiley? :D
 

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When you run out of arguments there are always personal attacks, how about deleting TSL from your favorites and start surfing skodaforum.com instead.
 
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