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I found a 2003 9-5 2.3t that I've been asking about for a few months now. Each time I was told it wasn't for sale. Anyhow today I was told I could have it for $1000.00. It's either steel gray or hazelnut metallic and is pretty mint. Well besides the broken timing chain and one missing wheel. Oh and that it's an automatic.:( I know that it's worth fixing for a $1000. so maybe I'm miss representing this but what would most of you 9-5er's do? B234r block? This would or perhaps will be my first Trionic 7 therefore I need opinions.

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James
 

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Firstly - I'd buy it as long as the title is clean and clear.

Secondly I would search for ANY T7 2.3 engine available - and if no luck, look for a B234R motor as back-up option. You should just find a T7 engine and make things simple. After all - the automatic can take 350HP in that year (5 speed auto) - do you really need more power then that?
 

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1k is cheap even if it doesn't run. I'd look into fixing that engine first before chasing another, good used engines are hard to come by for reasonable $. As long as it didn't rip up the lower end you may get away with a chain set, timing cover and used head
 

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Buy it if the body is clean. 1k is a too good of a deal to pass up. A simple 2003 9-5 linear in good shape is still a 4000-6000 car depending on mileage, so you'll do just fine at the 1k price point. Good luck!
 

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I'll post pictures tomorrow and yeah Idk what caused it but the car is pretty damn clean. I was assuming the whole engine was blown though because when i looked at the turbo it was pretty dirty but the exterior and interior of the car were clean. the car is actually located at a shop right behind a Saab/Cadillac dealer. any thoughts on that? I'm not all too concerned with the engine honestly but is there any other reason why a Saab dealer would not buy that car back and fix then sell? i was going to swap to b234r bottom end just in case i decided to do 5 speed swap seeing i have one laying around
 

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no problems with a b234 swap. It is super straightforward. You won't have any issues.

ALOT of so called saab specialists don't know the interchangeability of the 4 cyl motors. I was at a wrecking yard last week where the guy had 10 saabs, V6's and 4 cyl, ranging from 94 to 2004. He had a really nice 02 vert silver that he was trying to buy off someone who had brought it in. The guy wanted 1300 for it, which I thought was a good deal considering the shape of the body. He thought 1300 was too high because he thought a new motor would be 1800! Crazy, i'd slap any of the B2X4 variant engines in there and call it a day. Heck, he had two on his lot, but didn't know they were all nearly identical.

When I was building my 9-5, I was looking for parts to rebuild. I stopped by another saab specialist who had a B235 long block that needed rebuilt. He wanted $800!!!!! 800 for a PARTS MOTOR!!! screw that, he thought those motors were rare or something!

I put a b234 shortblock into my 9-5, head came off an 02 9-3 (T7).
 

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yeah i know most of what I've read or seen other people use for swap/hybrid items. ideally i'd prefer to use b234r block, t7 head w/ t5 internal pieces since i have spare b234r laying around. I have a 96 td04 900set, a 93.5 9000 aero, and a 99 9-3. i just think this 9-5 would be nice. Need to part the aero and 9-3 first though.
 

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I love the ignorance that surrounds Saabs or any car for that matter...You call a recycle yard and they almost refuse to sell you a part unless you tell them what type of car you have...I pretty much make up cars when Im on the phone so they don't bother me...do you have an Aero Saab...sure buddy whatever you say...is it a 2007...sure it is...???? Just tell me if you have the F****** part :D

no problems with a b234 swap. It is super straightforward. You won't have any issues.

ALOT of so called saab specialists don't know the interchangeability of the 4 cyl motors. I was at a wrecking yard last week where the guy had 10 saabs, V6's and 4 cyl, ranging from 94 to 2004. He had a really nice 02 vert silver that he was trying to buy off someone who had brought it in. The guy wanted 1300 for it, which I thought was a good deal considering the shape of the body. He thought 1300 was too high because he thought a new motor would be 1800! Crazy, i'd slap any of the B2X4 variant engines in there and call it a day. Heck, he had two on his lot, but didn't know they were all nearly identical.

When I was building my 9-5, I was looking for parts to rebuild. I stopped by another saab specialist who had a B235 long block that needed rebuilt. He wanted $800!!!!! 800 for a PARTS MOTOR!!! screw that, he thought those motors were rare or something!

I put a b234 shortblock into my 9-5, head came off an 02 9-3 (T7).
 

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I found some "junk motors" a while back when I was going to put a turbo engine in my 9000CD...a couple places told me to come and pick it up and I could have it...that would be a good start...that would be cool to build an almost free motor minus the rebuild parts...
 

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Dont you need every single service record for that warranty? I think all it takes is one missed oil change and they wont except it...
negative - needs to show at least one warranty repair towards "sludge repair" aka - dropping and oil pan, cleaning a screen, or just a claim from the customer stating engine noise backed up with the previous 3 oil change receipts (of any form, from anywhere) Meaning material purchased for a DIY dated receipt or from ANY service facility of any kind. It's really not all that hard - but being you have not owned the car before it could be a little trickier, but worth trying.

Saab is fairly easy once the word sludge is mentioned...

I helped someone a few years ago with a 9-3 SS (2003) get a free transmission from Saab via this kind of warranty... so don't be afraid to call around. There will be a dealer somewhere who NEEDS the work ;)
 

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GM added an addition warranty to the Saab 9-3ss...Its a seperate little booklet they added to the warranty book...I think it covers all these additional parts for 10 years or 100K whatever comes first...I was happy to see that when I bought ours used...or I am I...LOL
 

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i don't believe it was sludge though. they said the timing chain and when i opened it up i noticed they already dicked with the cams and timing chain. any ideas on the best best?
 

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Any yards in RI, MA, or NH that are recommended? the two yards close to me have 113k 181k and 235k. the one with 113k is 1800 with turbo
 
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