[formulate]

Ok, just to clarify -- the top image with red markups is from the Interwebs. It's not the car in question.

I don't have a whole-engine-bay shot of the car in question, but here's what I do have. You can click through to see larger sizes on Flickr:

2000 Saab Viggen by 4mul8, on Flickr

Battery cover is present. Stock airbox is present. Heat shield is present.

 

[Drew in Houston]

So let me get this straight. You ask "What's missing from this Viggen motor?" and then you post pictures of a Viggen motor that you found on the internet, not from the specific car that you're (potentially) buying, and ask for comments?

 

[formulate]

Slightly misleading? Maybe. The first image I posted has something blocking the hole, does it not? I was trying to show/ask what's missing.

Second image shows a close-up of the actual car, with missing plug missing. In the second image one can also see the heat shield -- which is missing in the first photo.

Sorry for the ambiguity. I was just trying to illustrate visually what I didn't think I'd do a very good job describing with only words.

 

[Tweek's Turbos]

This photo looks like a part was formerly here and now removed.

I am going to see if Burns can confirm it with IRIS, which is why I asked for the vin.

 

[formulate]

I am going to see if Burns can confirm it with IRIS, which is why I asked for the vin.

Cheers. I PM'd you the VIN.

 

[Drew in Houston]

This photo looks like a part was formerly here and now removed.

I am going to see if Burns can confirm it with IRIS, which is why I asked for the vin.

No. As shown is correct for a manual (with a correct recessed plug that's leaking a little like they all do).

 

[Tweek's Turbos]

No. As shown is correct for a manual (with a correct recessed plug that's leaking a little like they all do).

:signs025:

Yes, because it looks like somebody who knew what they where doing did the swap. You think they are going to drop in a 9-5 motor with that thing the on side and not remove it and blank it off?

Anyhow formulate, instead of lisitng to to retards argue on the internet, what did the pdi result?

 

[formulate]

PPI came back clean (with the same explanation of: Yes, the plug is there and yes, it will leak a bit). I'll take ownership on Saturday!

 

[Drew in Houston]

:signs025:

You been smokin the formaldehyde again there tweekster?

How many of these 5-sp engines have you put together? I've done 5 and i'm suuuper curious what makes you such a dick first of all, and second of all what makes you think there was an engine swap lol?

:signs025:

Yes, because it looks like somebody who knew what they where doing did the swap. You think they are going to drop in a 9-5 motor with that thing the on side and not remove it and blank it off?

Anyhow formulate, instead of lisitng to to retards argue on the internet, what did the pdi result?

 

[Drew in Houston]

Oh, and if you want, i can post a real live genuine picture of an example that actually IS an automatic head installed in a manual transmission car (hint: it doesn't look like that pic). Funny shit

 

[1995BlueBeast]

PPI came back clean (with the same explanation of: Yes, the plug is there and yes, it will leak a bit). I'll take ownership on Saturday!

FYI checked my engine and there is no air coming form that area at all. I did just replace the valve cover gasket so maybe start there and see if that helps. It really shouldn't be a hard fix though if anything is leaking slowly out of that area.

 

[danieljordanmaddux]

Assuming the first picture is the actual car, the air you were feeling could've been an exhaust leak from cyl 4

 

[Tweek's Turbos]

Top is my vig, bottom is my 9-5. Note there is not evidence of a clean vs non clean surface in the disputed area. The head is equally clean/dirty. The picture above in question shows gunk buildup except for where what I believe was the vac thingy on a 9-5.

Ok, not sure why they are upside down, but left is my Vig, right is 9-5.

And Drew, check your pm box.

 

[Drew in Houston]

See the grime covered machined portion that would've been covered with the vac assembly (had it been there)? Also see a reasonable amount of grime buildup in the internal threads.

My theory: What happened is the grime-edge on the machined surface (that would have been covered if it were an automatic btw) is where someone took a rag and wiped the dirt/oil mix off. The grime was there as a result of the leaking plug.

So what makes you guys state, based-upon zero evidence as near as I can tell, that not only has the engine been swapped, but it's been swapped with a 9-5 engine, and even more specifically that it's a 9-5 engine that originally had an automatic. You guys made the assertion, what's the evidence to support it? Funny shit

 

[Tweek's Turbos]

Just tossing it out there, could be a good bargaining chip to get the car a little cheaper if he can convince the guy the motor isn't up to par, it could also seal the deal if it turns out to be a good price and the motor is a fresh one out of say a 2008 9-5.

I like what you point out there about the gunk in the threads.

FYI after I got the vin I did some more research and didn't come out with any warranty replacement for the engine. We pmed back and forth before you came into this thread. Just the back hatch glass and the IDM.

 

[formulate]

Edit: what happened is, it's not paint. It's the edge where someone took a rag and wiped the dirt/oil mix off the machined surface that's a result of the leaking plug

This. It's actually not even been wiped clean. It's just that since that area is/was machined, and the rest of the block is cast, the oil and ensuing gunk sticks to the rougher non-machined area easier.

 

[formulate]

Just tossing it out there, could be a good bargaining chip to get the car a little cheaper if he can convince the guy the motor isn't up to par, it could also seal the deal if it turns out to be a good price and the motor is a fresh one out of say a 2008 9-5.

FYI after I got the vin I did some more research and didn't come out with any warranty replacement for the engine. We pmed back and forth before you came into this thread. Just the back hatch glass and the IDM.

Thanks for checking the warranty stuff. I've agreed on a buying price that I'm quite happy with. Interior's near perfect. Cosmetically outside, there's a couple little things. PCV #6 hasn't been done (but will next week). And there are no aftermarket braces present.

But mileage is 80k. And all in all I'm happy with my buying price. I see regular OG 9-3s selling for comparable prices.

 

[sallythesaab]

Congrats on the buy!

 

[1995BlueBeast]

Enjoy the new ride!

 

[Tweek's Turbos]

Nice!

I know the Cali folks do some Euro cruise ins from time to time.