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#1 ·
Any thoughts on the future president of the country?

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#9 · (Edited)
Better than Hillary!
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I've been a republican all my life. Not pleased with what has gone on in the last couple years. I'm realistic in knowing that a republican isn't going to win the election this year... and I'm willing to give the other side a chance. And I'd rather have Obama than Godzillary.
I would agree, but I thought the repubs didnt have a chance in 04. (like not even close).

I feel that there is a fighting chance another republican will take office. If not, I'll take oboma over that woman.
 
#11 ·
Those are my sentiments. I'm kind of upset Huckabee stayed in the race, forcing Romney out. I do not care for McCain much at all.

The dems have been complaining and bitching and whining for the past 8 years, and my ears are bleeding... they think they can do a better job, so let's give them their rope and let them hang themselves up to dry.

Our country is heading for the shitter, and whoever is at the helm this next term isn't going to do piddly squat to change it... better for the dems to be in the limelight and take the blame.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Ralph Nader got 0.38 percent of the vote in 2004, and was not even close to being the factor he had previously been in 2000 (when he got something like 2 - 2.5 percent).

The Libertarian candidate for president got 0.34 percent in 2004.

If I took the trouble to get my name on all 50 state ballots (and that's a boat-load of work for a minor candidate), *I* could get 0.38 percent.

That's how irrelevant Nader is these days.

EDIT - Nader got 465,000 votes for 0.38 percent in 2004, after getting 2.89 million votes in 2000, for 2.7 percent.
 
#7 ·
I hear he's a MUSLIM_OMG!@!!11

Seriously, the fact that people try to use that to smear a person's presidential campaign it pathetic. Is that supposed to be an insult? Does it insinuate that he is a terrorist? Same goes with the guy at the McCain thing emphasizing Barack Husein Obama. Is that supposed to mean that he is a terrorist, or supports them?

I guess I'm not commenting on him, just commenting on the tactics that his opposition are trying to use to sway the less intelligent Americans into believing or perceiving fallacies.
 
#36 ·
I do feel he is the best candidate for right now. After the amazing mismanagement of these past 8 years, I have been turned into much more of a democrat. My parents and I used to be more on the republican side. As I see it though, this country is pretty much screwed as long as these two parties are the only two viable options. It does come down to which is the lesser of two evils.
 
#61 · (Edited)
C'mon man. If you stopped parroting the same old "us against them" rhetoric you'd understand why Bush's approval ratings are the lowest in history.

Dude, where have you been the last 7.5 years? :D

Did you miss our being mired in an endless war?
Did you sleep through our being unprepared for the coming oil shortages?
Did you miss the systematic stripping away of constitutional rights and protections?
Did you forget the brief moment of multinational good will that we pissed away by essentially taking a dump on the floor of the UN?
Did you miss the tax cuts that screwed middle class families...while disproportionately benefiting the richest 5 percent?

Answer me this: How many presidents have you lived through?

Do you remember Vietnam?
Do you remember the gas shortages of the early 70s, and the lines around the block, or the even-odd rationing?
Do you remember the stagflation of the late 70s, when prices rose but the rest of the economy stalled?

No?

Well don't worry...you'll see it all again, soon. :rolleyes:

Unless you've been sleeping, or actively drinking the wing-nut Kool-Aid, you'd understand that this is truly the worst president in recent history.

The only thing good about him is that he's an equal opportunity offender.

Conservatives hate his fiscal policy, which refused to cut spending but also refused to raise taxes to support expensive things...like war.

Libertarians hate his national security policy, which essentially uses a couple of constitutional amendments like toilet paper...but gives it an Orwellian name of the "Patriot Act"

Liberals hate his domestic policy, which blatantly favors big business over meaningless stuff like clean air, pure water and environmental sustainability.

People in other countries hate him because he's the stereotype of the Ugly American, the "Fuck you, I'm from the US of A" assclown. He's a real life Yosemite Sam, only less articulate...
 
#49 ·
Don't live in the past! ;-)

So that's how the enragement over the next president will be justified?

"Oh well, people were downright silly about Bush! You can't blame just one person, those people are CRAZY!"

"This democratic president is ruining the country! He is doing a terrible job, leading the country donw the shitter, durka, durka, durka."

Probably will go something like that.
 
#52 ·
There are people who think Clinton had nothing to do with the good economy and Bush has had nothing to do with the things that have happened in his terms. These people are one in the same. However, if the person they don't like has something bad happen in their term they will be more than happy to claim that person had everything to do with that problem.

Again, I say this goes both ways.

Another funny thing to note, the many republicans have actually been blaming the democrats for everything that has been happening with a republican president in power...yet I'm sure (again) if there was a democratic pres and a rebublican senate they would blame the pres.

Remember kids, always blame someone you can disassociate with, its the American way!
 
#55 ·
From an Associated Press article quoted at Archpundit.com

Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator.
Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service.
The Illinois Democrat likes to quote something Bill Clinton once said: "The truth is, you can have the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience. Mine is rooted in the real lives of real people, and it will bring real results if we have the courage to change."
After college, Obama moved to Chicago for a low-paying job as a community organizer. He worked with poor families on the South Side to get improvements in public housing, particularly the removal of asbestos.
"Nobody else running for president has jumped off the career track for three or four years to help people," said Jerry Kellman, who first hired Obama as a community organizer.
Obama also fought for student summer jobs and a program to keep at-risk children from dropping out of school. More importantly, say those who worked with Obama, he showed people how to organize and confront powerful interests.​
 
#59 ·
No, the main problem is that the number one job and goal of the majority of elected officials is to stay elected. They do this by appealing to the more sensitive issues for their party, and by trying to spend money in ways that they think will impress their voting base and the people who find their interests.