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A family friend is currently laying in a traverse city ICU in the end stages of liver failure, and the doctors dont think he will see next weekend. He was always a bit heavy with the alcohol, but after he got laid off a few years ago, drinking is ALL that he did. First order of business every morning was pour a manhattan and have a few cigarettes, he essentially went Hiroshima on his body. He has been in and out of hospitals for a few years, and each time he would complain that "those dumb ass doctors dont know shit, nothing wrong with having a few drinks" even though they told him he was going to end up right where he is now. He is in his mid fifties, not that old by todays standards. Take care of yourselves, go to the doctor and more importantly, listen to the doctor; you never know just how quickly your bad habits might catch up to you. Learn from his mistakes.
 

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Same thing took my Dad. He was a functional alcoholic that smoked a lot. At 45 he had (another) accident that left him unable to work. At that point the doctors told him his liver was so damaged that if he quit drinking he could live another 8 to 15 years. He was 47 when he died. Cirhossis of the liver and emphysema did not kill him. He caused his own death. I was 19 and away in the military when he died. He loved his family, just not enough to get real with himself. That was 40 years ago.
So yeah, take care of yourself. Everything in moderation. I didn't always do that, being young and immortal. His legacy to me is why I'm alive today. As has been said by countless others and myself- "There but for the grace of God go I". I've lost friends to alcohol and drugs (Hep C, OD'ing, cardiac damage, etc.). It seems as though personal isues in most cases cause this self destructive, in denial, I don't care, they don't know what they're talking about, attitude. Sad.
Sorry to hear about your friend.
Our health is sometimes taken for granted.
This life is not a dress rehearsal.
It's a one shot deal.
So yeah, take care of yourself.
Good advice.
 

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Five years ago a liver specialist at Mass General told me that my father's cirrhosis was so advanced that even if he quit drinking, he only had months to live.

25 hospitalizations, 19 surgeries and at least 150 units of donated blood later, he is still here. Somehow.
 

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Found out today that Jeff died yesterday. Treatments werent working, so the doctors stopped everything but the morphine. As far as I know his family was there with him, but I dont have much for details. I was still kindof surprised that he ended up getting hospitalized. The last time I saw him last summer, his first grandchild was fairly recently born and he was so excited; I thought that may have made him change his ways. Really unfortunate, but not quite unexpected.
 

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Found out today that Jeff died yesterday. Treatments werent working, so the doctors stopped everything but the morphine. As far as I know his family was there with him, but I dont have much for details. I was still kindof surprised that he ended up getting hospitalized. The last time I saw him last summer, his first grandchild was fairly recently born and he was so excited; I thought that may have made him change his ways. Really unfortunate, but not quite unexpected.
Really sorry to hear. Thoughts are with your friend today.
 

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This is kinda chilling to read while I drink irish coffee. I swear I ran out of regular cream yesterday.
 

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Sorry to hear the outcome "M". More sorry for those he left behind. Know the feeling. May those that loved him be comforted and adjust to their loss.

If you go to John Belushi's headstone on Martha's Vineyard, his Epitaph reads "I may be gone, but rock and roll lives on". Partying took him at age 33. He did not beleive in moderation. He lived hard and fast.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=77

Again, sorry to hear the news.
And yeah, take care of yourself.
 

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I know/see people who live hard every single day. This one guy I know is 53 and literally gets obliterated drunk probably 3 times a week, with weekends an almost absolute certainty. In addition to that, the guy doesn't eat well at all. To make matters worse, he's a real likeable person and has many, many good friends. He hasn't "crashed" yet, but I think it's coming. Like other posts say, people abuse their bodies far too long before it's just too late. This guy, like most, is as stubborn as most. I think the hardest part of dealing with situations like the one in the first post is knowing how to communicate and prompting change. Sometimes there's nothing one can say or do to change a person's habits though and it's too bad. It's really rough when everyone can see someone heading for a rough road except for the person that's doing the damage to themselves.
 
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