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For anyone who cares, a bit of an update.

A fellow TSL board member picked up a CC 2.0T 6mt from the same dealer I did and wanted to get it tuned. So we both headed to an APR retailer on Thursday.

I had done an APR trial last year and was very impressed. Now I had the dough to buy the fully loaded software(4 program files) and it was half off during the power into summer sale.

I already had the intake. But they had added another section, the turbo to maf pipe and called it stage 2. I didn't want it for looks if it didn't add function. But data supported the smoother air flow, reduced spool and slight increase in power. It was on sale and my guy at the shop installed it for free while the car was being tuned.

After a few hiccups that caused a big delay(the APR server was being a twat and my car needed a lot of convincing) we both left with APR stage1 +stage 2 intakes.

Wow. What a difference. I went with the stock, 91, 93, and 100 octane files. On 93 for daily duties.

I picked up the wife who wondered if she would feel a difference. Well, the car just pulls so smooth, linking gear to gear, you have to announce the speed to impress the passengers. 80-90-100-110-120, my wife thought we were going 40mph less.

She said sometimes she doesn't get why I spend some money on certain mods, this time though she said it was worth every penny.

All that is left is a intercooler charge pipe off the turbo which is very restrictive. AWE makes a pipe for $150 that reduces spool time and adds another 7hp that the shop said they would install for free after he tests it out on his car to make sure its worth it. I will only add a downpipe and retune once the warranty is up. That will put the car at 270-280whp and 330lbs tq.

Very happy, new car+ tune and goodies is still under $24,500 and the results have been impressive. Hard to think of another good looking, comfy sedan with a manual trans and turbo and all these features that nets 300hp at the crank for so little money.


 

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Love it man! I think my Viggen Wil be sold this upcoming Tuesday, then I'm getting the TSI Wolfsburg. Plan to do an intake and flash to start with like yourself. Might splurge for coilovers before the chip/intake though. Are you doing any suspension appearence modifications to the CC?
 

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Love it man! I think my Viggen Wil be sold this upcoming Tuesday, then I'm getting the TSI Wolfsburg. Plan to do an intake and flash to start with like yourself. Might splurge for coilovers before the chip/intake though. Are you doing any suspension appearence modifications to the CC?
I am trying to show restrain on this car.

I will def. do swaybars, 18" BBS and tires next year. Might also splurge on coilovers. I love the Gold Coast Body kit, that would be a couple years down the line once I see if I am finding it reliable over 50k and keeping it longer.

This image from the appearance catalog was always my goal.
 

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But Jameson, it will always be FWDLOL.
Yes, but something I am perfectly fine with for my DD. Even at this power level, there is still virtually 0 torque steer. I am probably going to a 245, maybe even 255 all around, so traction will be pretty good.

For wheels...
I may try something different, black with polished lip is played out. I am doing a lipless concave wheel in black with a silver edge stripe. Should look very mean.
 

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Awesome notes on the performance of your CC. My mother has a 2010 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI and I've been trying to talk her into an intake and a tune. I guess such doesn't appeal to a 50 year old, conservative women, lol, but the car seems like it would have massive potential considering it has great stock power (140hp, 235lbs/tq I believe).
 

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Awesome notes on the performance of your CC. My mother has a 2010 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI and I've been trying to talk her into an intake and a tune. I guess such doesn't appeal to a 50 year old, conservative women, lol, but the car seems like it would have massive potential considering it has great stock power (140hp, 235lbs/tq I believe).
I would love to do up a Jetta TDi wagon with a 6mt.

My 74year old father keeps mentioning a bit of interest in getting a tune for his '08 SS Combi 2.0T 6mt.
 

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Love it man! I think my Viggen Wil be sold this upcoming Tuesday, then I'm getting the TSI Wolfsburg. Plan to do an intake and flash to start with like yourself.
The Jetta GLI is 30lbs less than my CC, so it's nearly identical.

For some inspiration, this time is for a GTI with less than 100lbs removed:

"2010/05/14 - 13.932 @ 98.63 - FWD- DSG- 2010 GTI- KO3 - APR - 91 octane shell - MidnightG60

Mods are APR stage I, APR carbonio stage II, 25 psi in tires, rear seats/brackets removed. Not sure of the exact weight. I weigh 150 lbs. This is also at SIR in Tucson AZ. Altitude is around 3000 ft. I was super excited to break into the 13's. This was my last run of the night. "

So stage 1+ intake and breaking into the 13's. Not bad, huh?
 

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i spent the weekend with a 07 (or 08 ) passat auto, leather, etc. and i must say i didnt enjoy the car much.

mostly it was a collection of bad: it was quick enough when the turbo spooled up but it certainly didnt arouse enthusiasm. it was "common" feeling in the steering department, the ride was composed but brittle, the manual seat controls were clumsy (how many decades until vw gets with the program?). also, in order to achieve proper distance for my lanky frame, i had to sit with the b pillar next to my head. the seating position ends up being very laid back as a result. with such a large car this was disappointing. my moms is300 has this problem but its like half the size. car wasnt quiet either. lots of tire roar and wind noise. again, disappointing considering this is a family car. maybe a change of tire would aleviate the noise to a large extent.

the good is what vw always gets right: build quality was high, the doors feel like bank vault solid, leather smelled great, stereo pulled high heavy bass, all seats rated high in comfort. plenty of little details like asymetrical door panels and trunk auto-opening upon button press remind me of how great vw does cars.

i liked the previous passat better, mostly for ergonomic reasons.

i wonder how your CC compares.
 

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Yes, but something I am perfectly fine with for my DD. Even at this power level, there is still virtually 0 torque steer. I am probably going to a 245, maybe even 255 all around, so traction will be pretty good.

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I may try something different, black with polished lip is played out. I am doing a lipless concave wheel in black with a silver edge stripe. Should look very mean.
Nice approach on the rims, I can see that style wheel looking very very good on the CC. I feel that those types of wheel are becoming more and more popular in the stanced crowd in socal but it looks so much better than the super duper fat lip wheels.

It must be nice to have so much usable power, those are no joke when it comes to simple bolt on power increases!
 

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i spent the weekend with a 07 (or 08 ) passat auto, leather, etc. and i must say i didnt enjoy the car much.

mostly it was a collection of bad: it was quick enough when the turbo spooled up but it certainly didnt arouse enthusiasm. it was "common" feeling in the steering department, the ride was composed but brittle, the manual seat controls were clumsy (how many decades until vw gets with the program?). also, in order to achieve proper distance for my lanky frame, i had to sit with the b pillar next to my head. the seating position ends up being very laid back as a result. with such a large car this was disappointing. my moms is300 has this problem but its like half the size. car wasnt quiet either. lots of tire roar and wind noise. again, disappointing considering this is a family car. maybe a change of tire would aleviate the noise to a large extent.

the good is what vw always gets right: build quality was high, the doors feel like bank vault solid, leather smelled great, stereo pulled high heavy bass, all seats rated high in comfort. plenty of little details like asymetrical door panels and trunk auto-opening upon button press remind me of how great vw does cars.

i liked the previous passat better, mostly for ergonomic reasons.

i wonder how your CC compares.
First, that Passat was likely the FSI which is not the same engine currently used. 2nd of all, the tiptronic saps a lot of fun out of the car, I had the 6spd tip in my Jetta. PASS.

The CC has different suspension tuning and is supposed to have a slightly stiffer unibody. Also, the CC is loaded with standard creature comforts like dual 12 way power heated seats with lumbar and memory, no manual controls to be found. I am on the stock 235/45 Conti's and tire noise is very well suppressed, most times people think we are traveling 30mph less than we are.

The steering IS the weak point of the car. A bit overboosted. There is a fair bit of body roll too.

I am no CC fan boy, but on the board there are people who owned B5 and B6 Passats that now have CCs and they say there is a definite improvement after making the switch.
 

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Nice approach on the rims, I can see that style wheel looking very very good on the CC. I feel that those types of wheel are becoming more and more popular in the stanced crowd in socal but it looks so much better than the super duper fat lip wheels.

It must be nice to have so much usable power, those are no joke when it comes to simple bolt on power increases!
The staggered lip thing looks so right on my Roady. On the CC though, I like the full face wheel look with multiple spokes and concavity.
 

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The Jetta GLI is 30lbs less than my CC, so it's nearly identical.

For some inspiration, this time is for a GTI with less than 100lbs removed:

"2010/05/14 - 13.932 @ 98.63 - FWD- DSG- 2010 GTI- KO3 - APR - 91 octane shell - MidnightG60

Mods are APR stage I, APR carbonio stage II, 25 psi in tires, rear seats/brackets removed. Not sure of the exact weight. I weigh 150 lbs. This is also at SIR in Tucson AZ. Altitude is around 3000 ft. I was super excited to break into the 13's. This was my last run of the night. "

So stage 1+ intake and breaking into the 13's. Not bad, huh?
Not bad at all. In stock form the TSI is impressive.I actually raced a gti with my viggen not long ago which you commented on in the war stories section. Met him at starbucks and found out his mod list. He was running an intake, apr flash, and a front mount. He put atleast 2 cars on me everytime from 70-120. Add a downpipe and a retune and he would have pulled that much harder. I'm definitely looking forward to the change.
 

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Jameson, how much did you pay for your CC? I plan on helping my father with his negiotiating for the CC. Nice to have some reference point.
Feb. 2009 was when I got it. $28,500 STICKER, got it for $23,500 and they made 8 payments on my Jetta totaling another $1000. The TSL member here got his 2010 for $24k+tax.
 

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Feb. 2009 was when I got it. $28,500 STICKER, got it for $23,500 and they made 8 payments on my Jetta totaling another $1000. The TSL member here got his 2010 for $24k+tax.
Wow, both seem to be good deals. the one we're looking at has the Nav and DSG with the sticker being $28,999. Thats marked down from $33k or $34k i beleive. There must be a little more room to go.
 

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This is the direction I am going in. I do not want a lip, I do not want 5 spokes. I want black mesh type with an outline of silver. This is a chop of a wheel contender, a 1.25" drop, and some tint. Along with MAYBE adding the Gold Coast body kit and the eventual Mk5 R32 big blue brake upgrade, this car will be done.
 
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