T5 keep it all saab. I think the t5 suite is the best thing that has happened to saab tuning in the last 5 to 10 years.

 

i think its the ONLY thing thats happened to physically tuning the ECUs in forever!

T5 best MS all day on these cars, easier install, ignition and boost control already built in, awesome parts availability, it cant be beat!

nevermind that once alll that hardware stuff is sorted, the car will run as soon as it gets fed power, there is no software headaches to go with it!

its also nice to throw away the dizzy, it makes intecooler pipeing and bigger turbos alot nicer to work with

 

How are you going to mount the trigger wheel?

Edit:

Have you already run it with all of your new parts? I would at least start it with LH and make sure everything else works before you open another can of worms.

 

I would have to figure out a trigger wheel setup to do the T5.


The engine starts and runs with LH and the stock injectors. But it's open turbo at the moment, no downpipe.

 

if you have everything to do MS i'd just do MS

 

MS is universal... t5 is not!

with MS you can get rid of the DIC and t5 BPC which are prone to failure..... and you can has launch control......

Plus..


Tom>MikeD




Jk

 

Anyone yet try T5-ing WITH AC in place?

Virginia summers are brutal -- 95+ degrees with 95+ humidity. I will NOT go without my climate control.

Once someone figures out that, I may consider it if the Commem or SE ever craps the shitter ECU-wise.

 

Anyone yet try T5-ing WITH AC in place?

Virginia summers are brutal -- 95+ degrees with 95+ humidity. I will NOT go without my climate control.

Once someone figures out that, I may consider it if the Commem or SE ever craps the shitter ECU-wise.

Not yet, but soon. This is the trick:

:wink:

Paul

 

that looks oddly like a C900 flywheel with a 60-2 trigger wheel machined in.

how does it affect transmission durability?

 

I like the T-5. There are already about 17 fueling tables that have been validated for lots of driving conditions. They also connect to knock sensor stuff. T5 is set up to let one limit boost on lower gears. So a lot of programming has already been done for 2 or 2.3 engines.

 

What did it cost you to get this machined ?
I was so free to post your picture at saab-cars.de. Some people over there are working on something like this also...
Is this wheel KeithG's work or is it your own creation ?

 

Pretty cheap, about $100, well worth it if you ask me. Yes, this is from Keith's drawing, I posted a copy of the CAD file over on ecuproject a while back. The machinist seemed to think that it was balanced perfectly by that extra little bit there, solidworks is a really neat tool for stuff like this.

As for trans durability, hopefully it will break the shit out of it, cause the last 20k of hard driving hasn't done it. 2nd gear syncro is about shot, but it has been since this trans went in, need to get some time to yank the trans and fix that, and install my Gripper diff and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Paul

 

the balance is near perfect. i believe it's off by thousanths of an inch, not enough to matter.

 

It shouldn't matter. But I'd like to see that verified in practice. MS is and T5 is allegedly only reading of the flanges/edges (donno the correct word in English) . So as long as the edges have a consistent distance it should work. It makes the time on a CNC machine shorter, therefore cheaper to make.
I still like to know how much this creation was costing.

 

yeah i can't really recall, i think theyre the same size, but it shouldn't matter.

Paul

 

T5 reads a sine wave signal from a VR sensor which operates on magnetic principles. The gaps need to be consistant. There is a thread showing a scope plot of the output somewhere.

Unsure on Megasquirts I/O configuration.

It would be cool if the machine shop that did that work could set up a service of sorts. Surface and machine a flywheel with a core charge.

Is there also a template showing the sensor placement on the backplate?

 

i feel like the teeth should be wider too,, But if it works it works, i cant argue with it heck, i did mine the old "no ac replace with trigger wheel" way from way back when

 

Wow, this is all motivation for me.

Took measurements from my '90-'93 9K wheel. Just gotta draw it out and cut it out.

Looks like fun!

 

Paul, if it works, and cost you 100 bucks, you need to offer a 150 dollar service, make it worth your while, i could probably get 3 orders together tomorrow.

 

That may be a possibility, I'll let everyone know how it works out. This design only works on the 90+ turbo flywheels, but those are the good ones anyway, so you'd just need to have one of those to send us as a core.

Paul

 

Wait, is that a 90+ c900, or 9000 flywheel?

 

90+c900 turbo flywheels are different than the 91-93 9k flywheels, But im not sure if it actully matters for this application....

 

yes, 90+ c900 turbo, pretty certain the 9k ones are quite different, the backside is what matters here, as some have different contours. I only have a drawing of this on a 90+ turbo flywheel, and I'm not gonna hassle with drawing it on a different flywheel, cause I don't have the software or the skills to do it :lol:

Paul

 

Heh, yeah I still have to draw mine up in CAD. Then I'm gonna need to find a place to cut it out.

 

i'm thinking the plan is to post a "for sale" thread to have these made for people, but only after we get a car running with one, just to make sure they work.

correct, paul?

 

i'm thinking the plan is to post a "for sale" thread to have these made for people, but only after we get a car running with one, just to make sure they work.

correct, paul?

Indeed.

Paul

 

Where is a good place to get a hold of one of those flywheels to then get it machined?

 

You mean other than junkyards? car-part.com might have some.

Paul

 

So that C900 Turbo 91+ flywheel is the one I need to go with my upgraded clutch disc/pressure plate? (The disc/pp don't fit on my 89)

 

its been 3 weeks and we are waiting...get the damn car running and put them for sale!!
:>

Perry