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Lazy Iraqi Police get a motivational speech. NSFW

1.1K views 39 replies 15 participants last post by  mike saunders  
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#14 ·
Well you seem to like talking about things you have no knowledge about i.e. other cultures, so I thought I would give it a try too. All I know is that if you expect people to be loyal toward you, it's a good idea not to call them liars and pussies.
 
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So..........you lump all military personel like that. Eh, your first amendment right to expression. I'll be sure to let my dad know that who is sitting 12 hour night watch in the pentagon. Guess I'll have to find your new opinion on me should I get accepted into OCS and continue a rather proud tradition of military service from my family.
 
#10 ·
I know. Just driving a point home. Easy to make opinions off of a 5 minute clip that you see without being submerged and experiencing the same situational awareness. Wouldn't have mattered whether they were Iraqi or American. If somebody that was supposed to be patroling with you side by side and wasn't after so long then you'd have a Sergeant (enlisted) or a Captain (officer) giving you the same chewing.

However lucky for the Iraqi's that they aren't American soldiers because court martial and time in a military prison is no fun.
 
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Deek, we all know you are playing devil's advocate here but there's no need to be a COMPLETE ignorant asshole.:D

"Last year I went to Iraq. Before America showed up, it was a happy place. They had flowery meadows and rainbow skies, and rivers made of chocolate, where the children danced and laughed and played with gumdrop smiles.":D
 
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^ I've only lived in that country twice, met the locals, bought items in their shops, played games with their children, listened to their problems, helped them construct new infrastructure, and then watched them piss it all away due to petty ignorance and backward social ideals. So yes, I am allowed a bit of opinion on this situation.

They are liars and pussies. If you had a slight grasp of their culture and history you'd know how only money and violence gets respect in that part of the world. But network news has obviously given you all the information you'll ever need.

Cheers.
 
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^ I've only lived in that country twice as a member of an occupying force, met the locals who humored me by not showing open contempt, bought items in their shops at inflated prices, played games with their children who will probably be traumatized for life by the deaths of family members, listened to their problems most of which were caused by the occupation, helped them construct new infrastructure to replace what the coalition and/or insurgents destroyed, and then watched them piss it all away -- the billions not wasted by the subcontractors themselves -- due to petty ignorance and backward social ideals. So yes, I am allowed a bit of opinion on this situation.

They are liars and pussies. If you had a slight grasp of their culture and history you'd know how only money and violence gets respect in that part of the world. But network news has obviously given you all the information you'll ever need.

Cheers.
Yikes, Dan....a blanket statement about an entire culture...

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion but ever wonder how you might have been accepted before their country was devastated?

You saw a very different Iraq than what existed before 2003, and despite the attempts to put it back together, we failed. So...
 
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Hot places breed laziness. I will stand by that overly simplistic statement to the grave.

To clarify: Yes, other places do to, and not everyone in a "hot place" is lazy, but those areas sure to subject themselves well to attracting laziness. Its and I'm sure it gets worse the easier it is for people to find food.
 
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^ Ever seen the workers at an orange grove in FL? Truly a sight to behold.
 
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I have, Dan. And I've seen sugar cane cutters in the Glades, and sod rollers in Ocala, and pepper pickers in Indiantown.

Ever work long hours in the hot sun, Dan? (No, not desk stuff in a hot climate...physical labor)

To work all day you pace yourself. You work by the available light. You start before sunup and work slowly until sunset. You're paid not by the time it takes you to do the job, but how much you do at the end of your shift.
 
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^ Chill out dude. I don't really have a clue what your sugar cane stories are all about. A great experience I'm sure. However, you have no clue what you're talking about in regards to my time in the middle east.

In fact, I doubt you have much of idea what it's like to live in an insurgent filled city. Sure there are some decent folks over there, but from my experience it's not worth it to baby them.

Bah..... this is a dumb conversation to have here.
 
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^ Chill out dude. I don't really have a clue what your sugar cane stories are all about. A great experience I'm sure. However, you have no clue what you're talking about in regards to my time in the middle east.

In fact, I doubt you have much of idea what it's like to live in an insurgent filled city. Sure there are some decent folks over there, but from my experience it's not worth it to baby them.
No malice intended, I'm just trying to wrap my head around it.

Dan, you spent time in an insurgent-filled city -- an insurgency, I'll remind you, that was triggered by the collapse of infrastructure and social order from an unnecessary war -- and you're using that microcosm to essentially condemn an entire culture, including decent folks who you claim aren't worth the trouble?

So your solution is, essentially, shoot em all and let God sort 'em out.....