That's almost as good as the guys at Automotion offering to charge me *only* $500 to make your old stage 5 tune work on my OBD1 car (not including the price of buying the ECU from you). Good stuff

 

 

It sucks that the second tuner is trying to screw you. But I was thinking as I read it how many typical honda owners would jump right on board? Obviously you are not typical, and are probably one of the most technical. But is the general honda tuning crowd on average very intelligent? I've seen some examples that say NO!

Tboy

 

do most honda's even get tuned?

 

There are plenty of legitimately tuned n/a and turbo Hondas out there guys. There are definitely more tuned Honda in the US than tuned Saabs...and I'm not talking about the typical ricers either.

 

Agreed! I have quite a few freinds that rock Asian imports that can show there taillights to just about any V8 powered sports car/hotrod. Let me tell you they know there stuff!

The misconception of the "people in the know" vs. "people in the no clue" is the same from Honda to Saab just magnified because of the size of the Honda tunning crowd. Heck, I wager sheer #'s aside, pure percentages more "people in the know" are on the Honda side of the ball.

That being said sounds like you know what you are looking for regarding the ITB tune. I would say stick to your principals you wanna pick a tuner that understands them and wants to work with you to meet them.

 

Dude, due to the size of the honda tuning community, there HAS to be someone with the SAME setup as you.


Also, I thought that Honduz had free tunes and all that shit. You seemed all fired up about that shit a while ago!

 

yeah theres plenty of open source, but tuning itb's is very very difficult, because you have to tune off of the tps and not the map reading. there is a guy with my exact motor, well a bigger set of cams by one stage, who was tuned by the lower priced tuner out in carlisle, which is one of the main reasons i wated to go to him anyway, but driving on a basemap for 200 miles isnt the greatest idea.

some tuners are also picky about the engine management. the best tuner on the east coast (jeff evans) will only touch high end systems like hondata, and aem etc, which i dont have. although ive decided i ned to switch to a system called neptune anyway. i found a place in albany, so its right about 2 hours and like 130 miles, so i feel a little better going there...for some reason the east coast sucks for high end honda tuners

i guess it just bugs me that the guy closest to me is trying to rip me off after basically saying im not good enough at tuning itb's to give you a safe base map, but you should still come here and pay me lots more money than anyone else...sorry buddy but you should picked your words better i think.

 

East coast sucks for tuning period.

I would just go with what people on the forums rec. I'm sure someone has some experience with this.

 

What ecu are you using?

Just megasquirt it. Megasquirt can run based off of alpha-N (throttle position and RPM), not just speed density (MAP).

Granted, I've never even owned a car with ITB's, much less tuned one, but I don't really see what the big deal is about it being more difficult. In the end, you're still just creating a lookup table based on sensor inputs.

 

im running crome right now. switching over to neptune for the ability to do tps based.

not doing megasquirt because the systems im running right now do chipped stock ecu's so it still plugs in to the same harness.

the shop in albany is in the scotia (i think?) area and is called synapse or synaps motoring.

 

what is the place in Albany called?

I don't know of any tuning shops around here, but then again I am not in the asian car scene...

do they have a dyno?

 

http://www.trickengineering.com/dyno.htm

this company did alot of the custom work for dave ship. they also have a 10 sec civic, and do in house custom tuning.

 

Scotia...exit 25 off I90, slightly west of Albany.

 

There is a tuner here in MN (consummate tuning) who (i think) tunes chrome. I forget what his name is, but his brother Joey has a mad tuned S2000 here in Duluth, and he's done a ton of other cars locally. (An E85 turbo rex, a couple all-motor cars etc)

Anyways.. here's the phone number: Consummate tuning *651-494-2657*


He might be able to hook you up with a basemap.

 

Have you tried Innovative Tuning out of Buffalo, or checkout r-speed.org for Albany tuners.

My buddie had both of his hatches tuned at evans tuning, and it is incredible the work they do out of that shop. Although he had a 8 month wait just to get one car in the door.

I would check out local forums to see what people have to say. I have been out of the tuning scene in hondas for awhile, I just had a piggy back on my b17, (greddy emanage) and was happy, but itb's are pretty big change in an n/a map.

Other then that, BE CAREFUL WHO YOU GIVE YOUR MONEY TOO!!!

 

yeah buffalo is about 7-8 hours from me so that wont work. ill check out the laany area tho thanks.

again, id love to go to evans, but he does tune the ems's i like.

 

what kinda engine mangement are you running? i just read your post and nothing after that. I know a guy in CT who is Godlike, he mainly does s4's but i know hes done some hondas..

 

using neptune.