holy crap.......that's like a riced ss, giant wing, wide body kit
all i can say is i hope it's faster than it looks

 

there doesn't seem to be any info about the HP/Torque figures yet but maptun is developing a T8 program for the SS, and should be out soon. So I am guessing they are holding back the numbers until they release the ecu upgrades to the public.

you're right, it BETTER be REEEEEEEAAAAALLLLYYYY FAST. :roll:

 

Damn Maptun is amazing

 

well thats uglier than shit...but i bet its gonna be fast :lol: :twisted: .

Paul

 

The front is just god awful. From the side it looks nice until you start goinging around back or front. It better be fast because that body kit from the front definetly looks horrid. It makes me want to cry.

 

SS, trail off into rant

I don't know if it's meant to be a street car or a super touring car. Either way I don't care. It's still not a Saab no matter how many badges it has on it. It didn't evolve from Saab and I can't stand the sight of them. I always want to yank the badges off them. Before GM took over 100% there was even talk of a new sonett. Now they're putting the Saab name on a Subaru and a gussied up trail blazer. What's next, a Saab running in nascar?! ok deep breaths Tim, count to 10. Sorry, I get wound up about the death of Saab.

 

Again...WTF does GM have to do with a Maptun car? I dont get these people sometimes. Saab has always had 2 cars in its lineup. For the last several years that has been the case. 9-5 or 9-3 and thats it. They NEED other models to survive because Saab was ABOUT to go out of business if they didnt have them. Saab isnt profitable so they cant afford to spend a ton of money on new designs right now so they are using other designs that have been VERY successful. Every write up I have read on the 9-2x Aero was great. Everyone loves the car EXCEPT all these Saab psychos because its more subaru than Saab. Unfortunately, the average person can't justify spending 5 grand more for the Saab over the WRX. Saabs have ALWAYS been overpriced. The 9-7X I bet will be very nice but its a truck with a v8 and again the Saab psychos dont like it because "it breaks from Saab tradition". We are lucky Saab is even still in business. I'd like to see some of these armchair quarterbacks try and run Saab for 5 years and see if YOU can make perfect products that make everyone happy and finally turn a profit for Saab. We are lucky Bob Lutz is a Saab faithful otherwise the plug would have long since been pulled on a deeply struggling car line.

 

The turbo they are using is a Garrett GT-35. Expect 400-500hp.

 

Saab psycho, I like that. How is not making Saabs saving Saab? Saab wasn't saved, it got turned out. It was weak and needed money so it had no choice but to let GM pimp it's brand. Saab is gone. It's too bad Saab couldn't have done what Harley did. But drive what you want, generic consumer. I'm sure the 9-7 will command a huge following of loyal owners. All bragging about having 200k+ miles on them. Nothing quite like an SUV to make you unique.
I would be banned from TSN for saying any of this. Crazy huh?

:x I make Saab 9-2x for you. 100% much lucky smile car. Veeeery horny to drive.

 

It was weak and needed money so it had no choice but to let GM pimp it's brand. Saab is gone.

The first part I agree with. GM pimped Saab and Saab would be out of business or under some other brand if GM had not done so. The second part I don't agree with because I drive a 2003 9-5 Aero with the ancient but beloved Saab (not GM) 2.3L variable boost turbo engine. If there was no GM, there would never have been a 9-5 for me to drive and tune and love being the generic consumer I am. Last I checked, this car and this engine are still being produced and sold worldwide so how you think Saab is gone I don't understand. I would bet you are driving a GM Saab anyway. Arent you?

 

The 9-5 IMO is the last Saab. I woulndt mind having one. One day when I have kids and all that stuff. I have never had a half GM Saab but I'm sure I will sooner or later. I was refering to the 9-2x, new no hatch 9-3, and the soon to come 9-7x and 9-6x. Those are the ones I consider pretend Saabs, GM psycho
My cars, past and presant. (Not counting my 1980 Sunbird *shudder*)
1987 900S
1984 900T
1986 SPG
1988 900T
1984 900T
1984 900T
1978 99
1988 9000T
1987 900T

 

Well that is a respectable list indeed. I love my 9-5 but in all honesty, I would rather have one with RWD or AWD which breaks from Saab tradition. Saab is in a lot of trouble because the people who traditionally buy Saabs are not going to be buying the newer vehicles for the reasons you mentioned but at the same time, the rest of the market won't buy them because quite frankly, the rest of the market doesnt like Saab and looks at Saab as unreliable wierd cars...Ive even heard Saab referred to as the ghetto man's BMW...or a pretend luxury brand. Saab needs a new flagship with at least 300hp and RWD or AWD, a mid sedan just like the 9-5 or even a continuation of the 9-5. The 9-3 needs a hatch added to the lineup and this is coming very soon. The SUV is needed just to stop the bleeding of lost sales from the massive surge of people who are now buying SUVs instead of cars. It is a band aid fix for a wound that could not have been foreseen but as far as trucks go, I really think this thing is going to be nice with the V8. The 9-2x I dont like but I dont like WRX's either. The 9-6 frightens me as I get pictures of the Pontiac Aztek in my mind. 7 seat crossovers are terrible looking vehicles despite practicality. The brand needs new stuff but all the best stuff is in Cadillac's parts bin and we all know the boys over at Cadi arent going to share the parts bin with cousin Jesper Parnevik in his pink pants and flipped brim hat (which is exactly what they think of Saab). It is sad and overall Im not happy with the direction of the brand but I think GM is not to blame and if anything GM has helped the brand just by keeping it alive. Saab learned the hardway that hatches dont sell in the US and thats why they dumped them for sedans. Only now are they figuring out they need at least one kept in the lineup for the hatch market which oddly enough is coming back around right after it was ditched. It really just seems to me that Saab is one step behind the times and has been for the last 15 years, GM or no GM.

 

Why don't you just sell your Saab then and buy a real vehicle? :lol:

 

mmmm CTS-V <drool>

turbo schmurbo....NA is where its at!

 

I said already, I had a 1980 Pontiac Sunbird. How much more vehicle does a body need? Here's a little taste. MIne didn't have any fancy stuff like torque or power or power anything, or a color. It did have the optional automatic tranny though. Nothing stopped it other than hills or snow or damp weather or any large bugs. I still miss that pontiac smell. :wink:

 

When I turned 16 (in 1992) my parents handed me the keys to the 1977 Volvo 244DL wagon in mustard yellow with rust accents. It had a 4 speed manual with a clicker on the shift knob for overdrive and original chrome roof rack. I thought I was unlucky but then realized how many naked hippy chicks a yellow volvo wagon from the 70's could produce! The thing still smells like nag champa and bong water. :lol:

 

I thought I was unlucky but then realized how many naked hippy chicks a yellow volvo wagon from the 70's could produce! The thing still smells like nag champa and bong water. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm getting one of those!

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Im pretty sure this is a Super Touring Car, which means its necessary to have ALOT wider wheels, therefore a widebody kit to cover it. Similar reasoning for the spoiler. Cars of this nature are FAR from "rice" but have total functionality.

Thus i repeat that the term "rice" is highly overused. :roll:

 

Yeah, it's got the look of the old group 4 racers from the 70's. Like the Lancia Beta, Integrale or the Renault R5 Maxi. Although, I must say, much more cheap looking. Too bad. When stuff like that is handled well, instead of looking like it was stapled on, it can make for a sharp car.

It really does need to lose the wing though. Eew.

Take a look here: http://www.carclassic.com/html/RACING1.htm You can buy your own rally car!

 

Every write up I have read on the 9-2x Aero was great. Everyone loves the car EXCEPT all these Saab psychos because its more subaru than Saab.

well that's just simply not true. they have sold at last count 400 of these cars so far. GM sold more Cadillac Cimarrons than they have Saabarus. anyone who has anything positive to say about the 92X "doing things for saab" just has not looked at the sales figures... it's not selling, isn't not going to sell. the same is going to be true for the 9-7, no matter how large an engine they try to cram in the thing. obviously it's "those psycho saab people" who buy new saabs, so one might think it would make sense to market to them?

 

obviously it's "those psycho saab people" who buy new saabs, so one might think it would make sense to market to them?

This is exactly the problem. Saabers are a rare breed and there are not enough on this planet to keep Saab alive. Saab got its "quirky" reputation not only because of the cars but also because of the people that drive Saabs. This is the whole reason they had to be bought out....too small of a market. The 9-2x is a direct attempt to get customers who would not normally consider buying a Saab. It's target market is not someone coming out of an older Saab or someone that loves Saab but needs a vehicle that can do other things (as is the case with the 9-7x...towing, space, etc). They tried to keep some sort of Saab characteristic by only making the wagon available but this was just a goof as everyone knows, wagons dont sell in big numbers in America. Every review or write up about the 9-2x I have read was a great review. I never said the vehicle was succesful as it obviously is not. As I mentioned before, it's hard to see the value in spending 5 grand more than a WRX wagon for basically the same car.

 

maybe this is somewhat true, but assuming you are right, where does that leave saab? I think they were on the right track with the 93-SS, but they SHOULD have tooled an AWD transfer case for that and added a hatch variant. that had a real chance of selling, the 93-SS has been the second most successful saab model to date, it would have made sense to add variants and options to that instead of a silly Subaru badged as a saab. Would also have been nice if they had used the 95 2.3 for this, as it's the ultimate evolution of the original triumph 45 degree I4 and at this point is nearly bulletproof. but as I have said before, the ecotec is not a bad engine at all, just not "saab". If saab keeps playing with it / improving it, it will be as saab a motor as the triumph stag motor is today

 

I agree and there are a lot of things that leave us scratching our heads. There are a lot of things that could have been done differently but I think there are a lot of people bickering and fighting over numbers and costs and products...people in Sweden as well as people at GM fighting amongst themselves. It doesnt seem like there is a clear vision or direction for the company or the products they are coming out with and each new product is some sort of compromise. It's not going to cut it though thats for sure.

 

They just need to get that sports car out there. Or maybe like said many times before the life of Saab doesn't just rest in the company's ability to market, but our responsibilty as the owners to stay true to the product and make the cars earn more of a reputation by the way we drive and style them. Personally trailblazers are very nice SUVs and I think you could the 9-7 and style it into a very nice machine. Every car have potential and we know the potential of our cars. We just need to let everyone else know. My only question for Saab would be since they are entering part of the market they have never tried what's their competitive advantage that sets them apart? The answer to that question alone, I believe, will determine the future of this car company.

 

Fact is people who like Saabs buy Saabs. People who like Saabs don't like Saab anymore so instead of fixing that, they abandoned us and go after the people who buy what the TV tells them to. Saab isn't about the cars anymore, there is no pride, the cars are just made up not part of an evolution, and the trolls are now kept in cages. I could change my name and grow a mustache but I still wouldn’t be Burt Reynolds.