that looks fishy as all hell.
why wouldnt gm go to barrett jackson as they always do with heritage cars?

 

I just lol when I read "85 900 SPG, fully restored for the '07 Boston Auto Show, $80k+ restoration." $80,000 dollars? How in the hell could it have cost THAT much? You'd think that it would be cheaper for Saab to take out the old molds and just produce one from a factory over a certain number of weeks.

 

it was a pro shop, nut and bolt remake. $80k is a years worth of work. sounds about par-for-the-course as far as these things go...

and this particular car, imho when i saw the car, is as fresh as the day it left sweden.

 

The yahoo groups thing aside, this isn't just some guy - that's Chip Lamb. He's got all the necessary connections to match up these cars with the correct buyers.

Better than posting them here - none of us would buy one.

 

The yahoo groups thing aside, this isn't just some guy - that's Chip Lamb. He's got all the necessary connections to match up these cars with the correct buyers.

Better than posting them here - none of us would buy one.

I will keep my mouth shut..... but seriously, are you serious? I think "some guy" sums it up fairly well - I could add a few adjectives and adverbs, even a few nouns if you;d like - but then I'd have to lock the thread lol

But you are right about US buying them - we all love them, but aren't crazy rich enough.

 

Yea, but GM is ripping off Saab and selling the first 4 to them for BIG bucks. It's all about the $$. No loyalty for the last 20 years being that they are true pre-GM Saabs

 

I want the spg for free

 

Wonder how much the Viggen will go for, will it even crack $20k.

 

It's not worth anything. It's got a sunroof.

 

my summery, do want, cant have

btw, where is the sonnet 1 in that list??

 

Like others, I had heard and anticipated Barrett-Jackson would be handling disposition of any SAAB Heritage Collection cars. I can only guess why this approach was deemed better.

 

I bet the cars are soon going to b/j and this guy is trying to make a very quick buck while the particulars are taken care of.

I would pay 25k for that 85spg. Its that good.

Cars restored by great craftmen such as jon williams are awesome (saw his vert this year in carlisle and its a gem). But when you get to the minor details that an amateur working with his own money handles via boneyard picking and elbow grease, a pro restoration such as that particular 85spg shows another level of craftmanship.

The heritage spg has factory-freshness in things like the smell, the weatherstripping, and even the glue.

I mean, I'm no pro. Far from it, but I was floored by how awesome the heritage spg looked. It brought me back to my childhood.

 

I met Chip Lamb during my brief visit to Carlisle this year, but can't quite understand why he would be involved in this...to me he's just another enthusiast. Barrett Jackson or equivalent would seem more appropriate.

 

wasn't the SPG the one that was "fully restored" with incorrect bumper extensions?

 

Yes and no. The '85 SPG was correct. They also did a Tally Red 1990 SPG. That one got the wrong extensions.

 

probably because chip did alot of work supplying the shop that did the restorations with parts, and they produced parts for him to sell to customers.

I have a set of new stainless steel hardlines in my sonett that were produced by the gm heritage restoration team.

 

Photos here.....................
http://www.saabhistory.com/2009/04/23/the-saab-usa-heritage-collection-status-today/

 

I want the SAABO

 

All i can think about is a pikes peak.

 

$80k restoration does not make an $80k car...it makes maybe a $20-40k saab. People who do restorations know that. A restoration business does not profit on doing cars for resale, they redo cars for people, charging labor! Since none of the actual prices were listed in the posting, I assume they are mostly going to go for $30-50k MAX!

Not sure why Chip Lamb is in charge of this...he might be an enthusiast but he isn't a professional auto seller who specializes in unique, rare, one of a kind cars (like Barrett Jackson or some of the other auction services like RM Auctions, who come to Hershey). No disrespect to Chip (probably a great guy) but he won't have the connections to find collectors with the $$$.

Kind of disappointing the collection wasn't given to Saab USA as part of the sale deal with Spyker.

 

I will only buy the viggen if its tuned by sqr.

 

that is awsome shit that they would pick chip lamb.... ive know him since i was like 5 years old (maybe younger, but i can remember)

 

Do we need to get you some consoling? Are you going to be able to cope with this?

 

The only car that made me drool was the 78 99 turbo. That car would be awesome to have. The red SPG was ok, but I would want to do everything I did to mine with Aero wheel, seats, etc. So I'd rather have mine than that for the money they are probably asking. I will say the 85 SPG was really nice, but I would just stick it in my living room or museum so it always looked like that...

I would pay upwards of 20k for the 99 turbo. I think that would be the car to have with my SPG and Viggen. That would be the ultimate collection of rare Saabs.

 

That 85 SPG was nice looking and all, but it had a whole pile of things that wheren't "right" for the year, pretty shoddy job in that respect if you ask me. This really seems like a very odd way to sell cars, especially with the non negotiable, and non-stated prices on things.

Paul

 

Agreed, even eBay sounds better than this.

 

If i remember people talking about it, the windows had mismatched numbers and I think the dash was redone instead of being original? not exactly sure, but I do know that things were done that were not absolutely correct for the year. Plus it was too perfect. That car did not come from the factory like that.

Hopefully someone will chime in on the parts or details that were "off"

 

If i remember people talking about it, the windows had mismatched numbers and I think the dash was redone instead of being original? not exactly sure, but I do know that things were done that were not absolutely correct for the year. Plus it was too perfect. That car did not come from the factory like that.

Hopefully someone will chime in on the parts or details that were "off"

Yeah, I didn't make a list, and it's been a while since I saw the car, but there were a whole bunch of 85 specific features, and I think a few were missing. Also, like was said, the car was much nicer than they came, things that shouldn't have come painted were painted, stuff like that. Might seem nit picky, but for $80k it should be right.

Paul

 

I guess I don't understand the "new economy" all that well, but it seems like the GM Heritage Collection does:

Fewer collector buyers + fewer collector buyers with cash = fewer places to post things for sale with no photos and no prices.

*scratches head*

That was my initial confusion. I was actually hoping for the '86 red convertible.

 

Definitely an odd forum to post the cars for sale. Like others said, I think it's a preliminary thing. Also, I don't think your assumption about the market of buyers for these cars is true at all. These are among the mintest and rarest Saabs in existence. If the team selling the cars advertises to the right people and sells it in the right forum, there will be no problem selling these cars. People act as if there might only be a handful of buyers looking to spend 20-25k on a Saab. People forget that it's a global brand and that the following for it stretches beyond our borders. I'm sure there's people in Sweden, Uk, etc that have the money and desire to pay the highest dollar for one of these cars. After all, there are rich people beyond the USA. I think that while 20-25k is a respectable estimate for some of these cars, they'll go for a lot more than anyone thinks.

Most of us are frugal Saab enthusiasts. Very few of us can even touch the target market of buyers for these cars. It's not like the lineup of offerings are junk...we're talking about what essentially amounts to new vehicles. It'll be interesting to see what they go for and where they're sold.

 

all i know is the car floored me when i saw it. i think its a $20-25k car.

and i bet these cars end up in b/j auction. this whole situation reeks of profiteering by a couple of people with access to property thats not rightfully theirs. this is my opinion, not an accusation.

 

I'm not sure they'd fetch all that much at b/j based on what the Pike's Peak NG900 fetched. I think it was somewhere between $5k-$7.5k about a year ago - more than book value, to be sure, but no $20k.

Who knows, though? It'll be interesting to see what happens.

 

Saabs are worth more than what you think. Shit, Shane's convertible proved that to be true and GM never even touched that car.