well out of an act of sheer desperation, I broke out the sewing kit and went to town on my 99's driver seat. yes... this is AFTER I fixed them. I wish I took before pictures :roll: Stitched up the major failure points and yanked out the extra foam that the previous owner had stuck in them. now springs poke me, but I can live with that. tossed the pimp faded slip cover to give it that added touch. I can at least sit in them with out feeling dirty now :lol: this is what 500K miles does to seats, but I think they have earned their keep.