[DeLorean]

turbo 740 stuff bolts right up

yeah, and then it would have less than 170 HP from a turbo intercooled engine pretty lame!

it IS a tractor motor, can't expect THAT much out of the thing...

 

[mike saunders]

Yeah, I wasn't thinking about taking half the spring off - More like half of a coil. What originally gave me the idea was reading reviews of certain performace/lowering springs; Some said the springs felt just like stock ones, only cut.
I'm not about to cut my only springs with such a lack information. I still would like a source of un-biased information.
...And I do disagree with the automatic shunning of something like cutting ones springs.

Dude, who's biased? None of us own stock in Intrax, B+G, Vogtland or any of the other manufacturers. Nor are we members of the Stock Ride Height Police. (My own car is lowered by about 1.5 inches)

No one is automatically shunning the idea of cutting springs. I just explained why it's considered a bad thing to do. Sure, lots of people do it all the time and they end up living with the drawbacks I mentioned earlier. The review you mentioned reinforces my point about proper lowering springs: You want to retain stock ride characteristics but with an increased spring rate to reduce body roll around corners. You don't want them to feel much different that stock...

How much of a drop will half a coil give you? (Hint: It won't be equal to the amount that you remove.) And to seat the springs properly, you'd probably need to remove a whole coil.

If you want to lower your car, you have two choices: to do it ultra cheaply or to do it right. It's totally up to you.

 

[Saab93cse]

I am going to be lowering my car either in the spring or summer.. Can I just replace the springs or do I need other components?

 

[mcrowley]

I am going to be lowering my car either in the spring or summer.. Can I just replace the springs or do I need other components?

You can replace just the springs; however old worn out shocks/struts and suspension bushings more then likely won't take kindly to it.

 

[stahlvogel]

Dude, who's biased? None of us own stock in Intrax, B+G, Vogtland or any of the other manufacturers. Nor are we members of the Stock Ride Height Police. (My own car is lowered by about 1.5 inches)

No one is automatically shunning the idea of cutting springs. I just explained why it's considered a bad thing to do. Sure, lots of people do it all the time and they end up living with the drawbacks I mentioned earlier. The review you mentioned reinforces my point about proper lowering springs: You want to retain stock ride characteristics but with an increased spring rate to reduce body roll around corners. You don't want them to feel much different that stock...

How much of a drop will half a coil give you? (Hint: It won't be equal to the amount that you remove.) And to seat the springs properly, you'd probably need to remove a whole coil.

If you want to lower your car, you have two choices: to do it ultra cheaply or to do it right. It's totally up to you.

I typically do it the wrong way first(seen my paint job?) - Thanks for reminding me it was my choice.

 

[Saab93cse]

You can replace just the springs; however old worn out shocks/struts and suspension bushings more then likely won't take kindly to it.

Do you know any good place to get shocks/struts and bushings for a good price?

I am getting Intrax lowering springs. How long will it take for the other things to wear out...?

 

[stahlvogel]

Do you know any good place to get shocks/struts and bushings for a good price?

I am getting Intrax lowering springs. How long will it take for the other things to wear out...?

I heard on saabnet.com that intrax felt like 'stocksprings with a few coils cut'...Anywho
Suspension links:
http://www.saabperformanceparts.com/item186.htm
http://www.genuinesaab.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=64_66
http://www.partsforsaabs.com/default.php?cPath=2
http://www.group9performance.com/in...ml?year=93&makeid=SA&modelid=9000-T-002&categoryid=L&showchildren=0&catalogid=1
http://www.sasab.com/DisplayCategories.cfm?SubDepartmentID="'<D &DepartmentID=!'0

 

[Saab93cse]

Feeling stock is good - meaning ride confort
Or bad - meaning cornering and handling didn't get better.

I have heard a lot of good things about them

 

[GripenTek9000]

actually i got all my suspension stuff at:
http://www.shox.com

they even have sway bars for my car! good prices to!

 

[mg_td]

I heard on saabnet.com that intrax felt like 'stocksprings with a few coils cut'...Anywho

they probably meant they felt like stock, but were lower, i dont see why you are so set on cutting your springs, save up 200 bucks and do it right, you have to remove the springs either way.... have you even seen a ghetto lowered civic? its silly

 

[saabkid37]

wow...intrax is nothing like stock. Its a hard but not really bad ride and corners nicely...not for the faint of heart. and oh...its reaaallly low so dont get them if your gonna be near speedbums or anything like that and learn quickly to take parking lot entrances and shit an angle constantly.

im still on original shocks only new rear swaybar bushings..ill deal with it when they die cuz any shock worth buying will cost over 400 for a set.

 

[mcrowley]

Do you know any good place to get shocks/struts and bushings for a good price?

I am getting Intrax lowering springs. How long will it take for the other things to wear out...?

I got my Bilsteins from www.eeuroparts.com . They may not list them all on the site, but I know they have them...just call and ask. Around $430 for the set of four (free shipping and I had them in a day). Poly bushings I got from various places....control arms came from eeuroparts, rear sway bar came from George's Imports/KCSaab (www.kcsaab.com).

Depending upon how many miles are on your car these parts could be in ok or horrible shape. The rubber bushings get tired with age because...they're rubber and that stuff gets dry and cracked over time. 13 years and x# of miles is a lot to ask for some original bushings. The ones on my former 95 CSE w/115k at the time were awful. Replacing the control arm ones especially made a huge difference. The shocks/struts make sense to do if you're doing springs since you could save youself on labor by having them all done at the same time.

 

[Saab93cse]

Whered you get your rubber bushings?

 

[mcrowley]

Whered you get your rubber bushings?

I don't have rubber bushings in the car anymore...replaced control arm, sway bar, motor mounts, etc...with the polyurethane ones which are a lot less flexy and last a whole lot longer. You can get new oem-quality rubber bushings from www.eeuroparts.com if you wish to use the stock bushings instead of urethane.

 

[JK]

I was also wondering about the lifespan of rubber bushings...but I checked all of mine with the suspension off for my trans swap and they all looked and felt like they were nearly new (?!?!?) and my car has 196,000 on the odo! They must have kept it garaged or something!

 

[mcrowley]

It also has a lot to do with how the car was driven. The control arm bushings, the top motor mount bushings and the two lower motor mounts were all pretty much trashed after 115-117k.

The control arm bushes especially make a difference in how the steering and front end of the car feel. If you've got any kind of clunks/creaks or noises like that, get under the car and take a look at them. Only the outside edge of the bushings can really be seen without taking them off the car. There is a metal sleeve in the middle of the bushing where lots of wear occurs as well.