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9k Aero vs s52 e36 M3

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did several pulls along with my friend's a32 maxima.

Unless we started real low..like <30, we pretty much just traded bumpers through the gears, very even. My friend's maxima stayed next to us until we started hitting triple digits and then would fall back slowly. Anyways, thought I'd share.
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Stock Aero? My old aero would keep up with similar cars but only after 45mph or so.
Yep, E36 M3's from a roll are not too strong, especially as speeds increase. They fair much better with the M50 swap since that nets nearly 20whp higher in the rev range.
you mean the m50 manifold right? how do the s52's respond to tunes and such. The guy said it was stock and I guess I'll believe him since he's got more peak hp and less weight than the Aero. But looking at it with a Saab perspective, I could look completely stock with a t5suite stg 2 tune.
you mean the m50 manifold right? how do the s52's respond to tunes and such. The guy said it was stock and I guess I'll believe him since he's got more peak hp and less weight than the Aero. But looking at it with a Saab perspective, I could look completely stock with a t5suite stg 2 tune.
He would not net much more than 10rwhp with a tune on stock components, it would not be worth his time or money to get it tuned with all stock hardware. N/A cars respond to upgrades differently to turbo'ed cars; my 370z has netted around 30-40rwhp from high flow cats and long tube intakes alone but if I were to get a custom road tune ($750), it would only get me another 10rwhp max.

Compare that to the 40whp you could net on just a tune along on the 9k.
did several pulls along with my friend's a32 maxima.

Unless we started real low..like <30, we pretty much just traded bumpers through the gears, very even. My friend's maxima stayed next to us until we started hitting triple digits and then would fall back slowly. Anyways, thought I'd share.
I recently did a few pulls against my friends e36 M3. He has an active autoworks full exhaust system, catless with some kind of headers, and a CAI. He "claims" to have 275whp, having never dyno'd the car and with no proof. My NG900, with a TD04, exhaust, tune, intake kept up with his car pretty easily at higher speeds, much like you said. Unless we started from sub 30mph, It was fairly equal.

Seeing how my car put down 200whp on the mustang "heartbreak dyno", his car is nowhere near 275whp.

Oh and to christian, he also "claims" that once he gets his "tune", his car will be around 300whp, and blowing mine away easily. It will probably be quicker than mine yes, but NA cars respond differently to tuning.
you mean the m50 manifold right? how do the s52's respond to tunes and such. The guy said it was stock and I guess I'll believe him since he's got more peak hp and less weight than the Aero. But looking at it with a Saab perspective, I could look completely stock with a t5suite stg 2 tune.
Yes, M50 manifold. It's a solid gain without software as my friend showed 13whp with no tune on the same dyno before and after.

Tunes as said, do not do much. 5-8whp maybe. FI and a tune is where the power comes from.

I recently did a few pulls against my friends e36 M3. He has an active autoworks full exhaust system, catless with some kind of headers, and a CAI. He "claims" to have 275whp, having never dyno'd the car and with no proof. My NG900, with a TD04, exhaust, tune, intake kept up with his car pretty easily at higher speeds, much like you said. Unless we started from sub 30mph, It was fairly equal.

Seeing how my car put down 200whp on the mustang "heartbreak dyno", his car is nowhere near 275whp.

Oh and to christian, he also "claims" that once he gets his "tune", his car will be around 300whp, and blowing mine away easily. It will probably be quicker than mine yes, but NA cars respond differently to tuning.
HAHA. Your friends claims are a joke. I have good headers(not eBay reps), exhaust, intake, and pullies and I did a solid 220whp on a Mustang dyno. Would be more like 230-235 on a Dynojet. So I am UNDER 270hp at the crank with my 70k S52. To get 275whp NA you need full bolt ons including aggressive Sunbelt cams and it's still a long shot since even Sunbelt cams usually offer about 265whp tops.

Your Saab kept up because these cars are not that fast as speeds increase. While I had 220whp, my tq was 213. My Viggen had a tq advantage approaching 100lb feet.

My M50'd non cammed car will be about 250whp on a Dynojet. That is about where most people stop. Then it's forced induction time.
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Sounds a lot like the VQ30 in my friends maxima. CAI and exhaust do next to nothing, but they get a bit from the Y pipe connecting the headers. I know my friends dynoed 175hp 185 lbft and weighed in at 2970lbs. Its a pretty damn good sleeper. He'll get the Aero at low speeds, and I'll pull him back in when speeds get up there.

This is the same A32 maxima that I ran with the m3 and way back when before the Aero killed some rod bearings and beat pretty badly. But it must've had something wrong with it then. He's been spending quite a bit of time getting it all working right.
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