a- why do a v6
b- ng900 with b234 is possible and has been done talk to cooper here on the board or give the guys at automotion a call.

 

Yep...my NG will rape any V6 Saab out there.

 

yeah I agree, the V6 is shitty. do the B234R swap!

 

i can get a free v6 motor, still in good condition and all with a tranny, gettin a b234r is much more difficult, and iom not really sure where to get one

 

i can get a free v6 motor

Maybe if it's a 3.0

 

Don't swap in a V-6 unless you plan on building it up for a turbo. Stock they come a little quicker down low than their 4 cylinder counterpart, but the turbo 4 can be made alot better and alot more reliable for cheaper (at least that's my impression). With a V-6 you're looking at timing belt and tensioner replacements every 60k. To me, an NG900 V-6 is asking for trouble.

 

how does the 900s tranny compare to the 9000 with the b234r

basically im thinkin of keepin in my old motor, but changin the tranny, ecu, exhaust, and bolthing on the turbo....is it worth it?

 

Oh and FYI there is NO DIFFERENCE between the b235R and the b235L, other than the turbo that is bolted on to them - they are totally internally identical!

edit: Sorry, I ment b234R and b234L...my bad :lol:

 

JK, wrong engine and I would never suggest to anybody to drop the T7 B235 into any car. T5 is the way to go with anything. We hadn't told him that yet that internally the B234 motors are all the same except for the turbo put on them. So there it is wowko. Find yourself a wrecked 97 9000cs in a junkyard with a good engine and grab it. Then go look for a wrecked 97 9000 cse and grab the BPC valve and ECU and the harness and your good to go with a start of 200 hp and can build from there. The cs and cse used the same turbo. Only difference was the ECU programming and the bpc valve.

 

will i need a new exhaust?

 

What motor is currently in the car?

 

oo boy this is gonna be sweet

 

a b234 2.3l

 

i have thought about this same conversion also. the questions I have are which transmission will be used for the swap? a 9000 or 900 transmission? the other one i had ran across is wiring harness wise. will it be plug and play in the stock harness or will a massive gutting be in order to swap the whole harness. ive seen it done in a c900 and it was very involved (strip to body shell almost)

 

The 2.3 non-turbo motor uses an entirely different engine managment system, I think its motrinic, certainly NOT Trionic.

So you would need to get an entire harness from a trionic 5 car and have a tuned ECU. If you leave the non-turbo ECU you will not have anough fuel - you will lean out and go boom, and the same thing (but to a lesser extent) is you install a Trionic harness and ECU from a 2.0 Turbo motor. The ECU would provide fuel for the 2.0 rather than for the 2.3, causing a lean condition.

 

and the same thing (but to a lesser extent) is you install a Trionic harness and ECU from a 2.0 Turbo motor. The ECU would provide fuel for the 2.0 rather than for the 2.3, causing a lean condition.

Couldn't you fool the ECU a bit by putting in oversize injectors and a higher pressure FPR? I'm sure that's a band-aid fix - but it gets you down the road until the budget supports a tuned ECU.

 

would i need a bigger exhaust than the stock exhaust for the b234 in a 97 900s

 

Well, the non-turbo exhaust is different from the manifold to the flex pipe, so you would need the turbo downpipe. For the rest of it the size is not really an issue, it should be the same size and the turbo exhaust.