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24 Hours of Lemons - Cougar Bait is back!

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24 hours of Lemons 2009 - Team Cougar Bait

Well, it's official, we're in again.

We were accepted into the 24 Hours of Lemons again this year, for a race called "The Lamest Day" at Nelson Ledges Road Course in Ohio on October 3rd and 4th, racing (hopefully) a full 24 hours from noon on the 3rd until noon on the 4th.

Out of over 160 applicants there were 120 teams accepted to race on this 2 mile 7 turn road course. This is a far superior course to the small truncated 3/4 mile oval on which we raced last year in Toledo OH. But with this larger track comes quite a few more cars out there to bump into!

As some of you know, we raced last year in a 1991 9000 turbo, dubbed "Cougar Bait 1," which we wrecked about 1 hour after the green flag dropped. By the time we got the car repaired we were in 58th place, but with some great driving the terribly compromised 9000 was able to sneak back up into the top 20 car before some "minor engine failure" forced us to take it slow and sit out for an hour only to limp back onto the track and finish under the checkered flag. We walked away have learned a few things about what matters in a 24 hour endurance race, and with a nice trophy for the "Most Heroic Fix"

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That car was cut to pieces and as much of the expensive safety equipment as possible was salvaged for whatever sorry lump of a car we could scrape together for this year, which brings me to Cougar Bait 2 for 2009…

In honor of the severed relationship with GM we chose one of the most bastardized offspring of the whole GM/Saab relationship, a 1994 Saab 900SE 2.5V6 with a 5 speed manual transmission. The very 1st fully GMified Saab, with a motor that some people regard as one of the worst to grace the engine bay of any Vuxha…I mean Saab. This car was found in an alley on a COLD and VERY snowy January, the owner was desperate to get rid of the car as it was using up precious off street parking. A deal was struck and we practically stole the car for $200, AAA helped us transport the car home since the alternator was toast and the airless tires were frozen to the ground.

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The car sat for the better part of the winter, once the ground began to thaw we pulled it out of the garage and got to work and fixing the seized alternator in an attempt to get the car running. It took a while to source a cheap alternator for the car, but after employing the services of a local automotive electronic shop we had a fully rebuilt alternator for $100. The car sort of ran and we were sort of relieved, having bested out previous milestone of a running car the week before the race by several months.

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You find strange things stripping out a car, change, 2 year old French fries, and large bras may be among those things.

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Since then we've stripped the car, moved many of the safety items from last year over to this car, and began constriction of the roll cage. We hope this car, or at least the body of the car can make it through our race in October and continue to live on for rallycross, ice racing, and most of all, another 24 HOL race! Prepping the car is really the expensive part of the whole ordeal, and avoiding that will allow up to improve other aspects of our setup, like getting a car trailer, or some sort of janky old RV or bus to fix up and use for race transportation/towing.

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We have more work to complete before the race, Viggen brakes to install, race seat adapter to make, finish welding the cage, gutting the doors, getting the car a much needed tune-up and timing belt replacement, and gathering up a bunch of tires and wheels are just the start of it. The car will be done up in some extra special livery for this year's theme, hopefully we can get a preview of that in the next two weeks.

Feel free to follow Team Cougar Bait's Facebook page for team and car updates!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Cougar-Bait/116795308591?ref=ts

We'd love to see anyone show up to cheer us on! Anyone interested in hanging out in the pits is free to do so as long as you pay your way and get a pit pass, the RV facilities for the team members are already pretty tight, so you'd be on your own to look after yourself. It's certainly an entertaining time to watch and participate. Lots of great people to meet and plenty of janky endurance race action!
 
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Great write up. You and your team are great Americans and Saab nuts.

Thanks for sharing.

I'm thinking an unreliable DIY turbo setup is the logical next step for the car before October.
 
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Thanks man! Yeah, a super unreliable turbo setup would be super for this race :mrgreen: We probably don't have time to hack one together though.

awesome, Ohio is not far from me... Maybe I'll pop by
You should! We'd appreciate anyone who feels like hanging out in the pits, or just watching! I think we'll be around from Friday for track practice to the end of the race on Sunday. It should be fun!

Are you allowed to use the same car twice?

Are you going to do the timing belt before the race? ;)
We are allowed to, yes, for sure! Some of the Saab teams have been running the same poor, beaten c900s for more races than I would ever expect!

The timing belt will be changed next Saturday by the fine people from Meyer Garage and Iowa City Saab.

http://www.iowacitysaab.com/

They have been very good to us, and they will be heading up our pit crew this year. We are VERY excited to have them helping us out, and we're hoping they will have a great time at the race with us!

Good luck and don't let Topher go first!
Topher can race after everyone else crashes!

Who's the creepy looking guy in the Butler T shirt?
Topher, he looks up to you in the hair styling dept ;)

Nice car!

DeLorean knows where there used to be a nice GMC mobile home for sale - as I recall he was interested in buying it himself not too long ago. Depends on your price range (cheap) there are options out there.
We probably won't be able to swing an RV purchase this year, but we are certainly looking into it for the future.

We already have a car, thanks! Ours was $200 ;)

Cool, Thanks for the informative post! I would like to come up and help in the pits. I think I can scrounge up the money, and have nothing planned for now. I've always wanted to see/go to nelson ledges. They have what they call "fun days" which I've wanted to go and participate for a while. This would be a good chance to get a feel for the area and all.

I won't commit to anything yet, but I will soon. Once I do I'll PM one of you.

What is the TEAM by the way. JK, Champ, Topher, .......? Who else?
We would be very excited to have any groupies, friends, internet acquaintances show up. Like I said, I had a great time just watching last year, and this track should be more exciting! There is a "fun day" on the Friday before our race, but it might be limited to the Lemons cars, I'm not entirely sure about that.

The team consists of:

Jon (Champ)
Chris (Topher)
Andrew (ADouglas)
Jessop (JK)
Mike (a great local autox'er and driving instructor who is not on here)

Anyone at all who is interested in coming out please PM or email me. Since we already have a pit crew we won't expect anyone to do any real work, but if they feel so inclined they can certainly help in any way!
 
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Cool, Thanks for the informative post! I would like to come up and help in the pits. I think I can scrounge up the money, and have nothing planned for now. I've always wanted to see/go to nelson ledges. They have what they call "fun days" which I've wanted to go and participate for a while. This would be a good chance to get a feel for the area and all.

I won't commit to anything yet, but I will soon. Once I do I'll PM one of you.

What is the TEAM by the way. JK, Champ, Topher, .......? Who else?
 
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T-Shirts are in and for sale!

http://www.saablink.net/forum/showthread.php?t=42793

The team is ready to start wrapping up the general car prep this weekend with a fresh timing belt and tensioner.

HUGE props to the guys and gals at Meyer Garage/Iowa City Saab planning the trip to come up and install the belt and give the mechanicals a good once-over for us. They will be making the drive up tomorrow, and as some of you know they will also bring their expertice with us to the track this year. Marty and Mike Adams will be our official pit chiefs this year to get us through the race as best they can, and we are more than excited about this!

As you might be able to guess, we have chosen a different car theme this year. I'm sure some of you will be able to put 2+2 together and get an idea of what the car will look like, but I'm not going to say anything for sure until the paint is laid down.

This year, with just over a month left to prep the car I think we will end up with a nice looking and hopefully well prepared rig. We hope to avoid working on this car two days before the race like we did last year.

More updates to come this weekend when we wrap up the cage and get the little mechanical bits sorted out.
 
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My guess is we haven't lost a ton of weight overall, the cage is fairly heavy once all said and done.

However it will stiffen the entire car up, giving us hope that we might be able to take a corner at a reasonable speed.
 
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Ditching the glass actually removed a surprising amount of weight. It would be neat to get the car on some sort of scale before the race, just because I am somewhat curious.

I know the 9000 last year felt VERY light compared to what I was used to, and the fact that the springs were sitting quite high confirmed that we had lost a lot of weight in the car.

Between the window glass, sunroof assembly, and all the seats (front were powered) I'd say we certainly shed a few hundred pounds, how much the cage adds I can't even guess. It is not light, but I don't think it would come close to adding back how much we have removed.
 
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nice! glad to see you guys are doing this again......if i wasn't getting married in the same month i'd try to come out too :lol:
 
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A quick bump to again thank all of our supporters this year. The car is VERY close to being mechanically wrapped up.

Mike and Marty Adams from Meyer Garage/Iowa City Saab made the trip last week to overhaul the timing bits on the 2.5 V6. They made very quick work of the job and got the car running MUCH better than in had before. We can't thank you guys enough for that!

Last night we wrapped up the roll cage, or at least all of the necessary pieces to make it legal, some more gussets and bracing may be added just to shore it up that much more. I really hope the car survives to some degree this year, because it would be a great vehicle to carry over into some ice racing and rallycross...

Anyway, so far our sponsors this year are

Meyer Garage/Iowa City Saab
http://www.iowacitysaab.com/

Like I said above, these guys are great. True Saab enthusiasts and a great benefit to Saablink, all of the MN Saab guys, and many, many more Saab owners across the country.

Eurowerks European Car Club
www.eurowerks.org

These guys really stepped up to the plate this year and have provided some very helpful and very appreciated support for the team. Support them by coming to and signing up for their yearly car show, it is very well laid out show and has grown faster than expected!

Jeff the Alignment Guy
www.thealignmentguy.com

Jeff has been generous enough to supply with tires and mounting services again this year. We always appreciate it as those type of expenses can really add up fast. We would not been nearly as quick around the track last year without his contributions!

Clewell Photography & Motionblur Photography
http://motionblurphoto.com/
http://motionblurphoto.blogspot.com/
http://clewellphotography.com/

Kris and Jessie do excellent work in both the automotive and non-automotive worlds of photography. His photos have been featured in many well known automotive publications and he has many happy customers from private photography sessions. Please check out his work!

Kris was kind enough to help us out with team photos this year, and has helped in coordinating other sponsorships (see Eurowerks). Many thanks Kris!

And naturally thanks to everyone else who has helped out in any way, those who have purchased T-shirts, given technical advice, sold us parts, and so on. And anyone who has thoughts of coming out to cheer on all the racers, we'd be glad to see you!

We certainly can't do all of this without the help from others!

Thanks,
Team Cougar Bait

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^love the picture.

Classic.

And if the car survives to do Ice Racing the team is invited to WI.
 
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I'd like to proudly ad the Minnesota SAAB Club to our list of sponsors!

MN Saab Club
www.mnsaabclub.org

Meeting the 1st Thursday of every month, currently at the Alaska Eatery in St Louis Park, MN. Meetsing start at 7:30 PM, and they go for a few hours.

Me meet for dinner, drinks and the latest SAAB news, as well as car stories, photos, videos and so-on to share. From time to time we schedule driving events, picnics, and do some rallies. We are one fo the oldest regularly meeting official Saab clubs in the US, and we are always looking to bring in some new people!

The MN Club has generously contributed to our RV rental, which is one of our largest expenses. Many thanks guys!
 
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If this car survives and is eligable for some class of rallying then maybe next summer? Who knows :lol:

The heroic fix award was for a team who had a car that was really fucked up and then got back out onto the track to rack up more laps! We crashed 40-some laps in and went out to complete 1000-some laps.

Started the race like this:

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Did this:

Then drove the hell out of it for the rest of the race looking like this:
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your cage isn't gonna fly for rally. Did you build to a specific rule for the cage? or did they just say it needs some kind of cage? It would be nice if you could build it to the rally rules next time.

It's awesome that you guys went back out. So how many ratchet straps are holding the car together in the end?

At Olympus rally we were racing with failed clutch hydraulics, failed alternator, severely bent rear axle, and a ratchet strap holding the motor down.. so I know the feeling of patching something together! :)
 
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We were able so salvage some of the cage from last year's car. It is built of 1.75" x .120" DOM Steel. Essentially we used the front bars from last year's cage and then made a new rear hoop and backstays. The cage is not actually done yet because I need to add a horizontal across the back hoop, but I have been waiting until we get the seat in place.

If the car wrecks I would gladly build out next cage to rally specs. What did you guys do for yours, have a link to the rules you built it to?

3: SAFETY

* 3.1: Rollbar and Structure: Professionally made full roll cage required. A poorly built, improperly mounted, or badly engineered rollcage can keep you from racing: Don't show up with crap! At minimum, cage must include: Full front and rear hoop, appropriately braced to each other along the roofline; two drivers-side door bars (X-design is acceptable); appropriate main-hoop backstays with no bends, located as close to 45 degrees from horizontal as practical; one main-hoop diagonal; appropriate spreader plates and gussets; complete 360-degree welds at all joints. Each major load-bearing member must be formed from its own single, continuous tube. Shoulder-harness bars strongly encouraged, and virtually necessary for proper shoulder-harness mounting in some applications; dash bars very strongly encouraged.
+ 3.1.1: Rollbar Tubing and Padding: Minimum tubing size for cars weighing under 3000 pounds as raced is 1.50" x .120" or 1.75" x .095". Cars weighing over 3000 pounds as raced must use a minimum tubing size of 1.75" x .120". Properly-bent, racecar-grade and -quality tubing is mandatory: no stretched or crushed bends allowed. DOM mild steel is very strongly recommended over ERW (seamed) tubing.
+ 3.1.2: Don't understand any of the above? See where it states "professionally made." You shouldn't be doing this yourself.
+ 3.1.3: All roll cage tubing must be padded with high density roll bar padding wherever a driver may contact the tube.
+ 3.1.4: All attachment points on the vehicle must be selected and reinforced as necessary so that, in an accident, the cage will not punch through, tear, or grossly distort the attachment point. Spreader plates, backing panels, gussets, and/or other reinforcing elements are generally required to meet this goal. Cages mounted to rusty, thin, under-supported, or otherwise stupid attachment points will flunk tech immediately.
+ 3.1.5: Waivers: Previously entered LeMons cars that don't meet the above specs must upgrade their equipment or apply for an individual grandfather waiver before showing up for the race. Be warned: Waivers aren't automatically granted.
 
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http://www.rally-america.com/rules.php

Looks like the FIA/RA specifications for the cage are not very far off from what I built. But I am not going to put ANY more time into the cage unless the car comes out of the Lemons race in one piece.

As far as the steel we used we're good to go, but we're missing a few of the needed braces.