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So who's in for a $15k 9-5? Or, at what price do you jump into a New As-Is Saab?

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#24 ·
There are such entities as third party warranty companies, including some reasonably reputable ones. We bought a third party warranty for my wife's 2005 E320 wagon - as one mechanic said to me, you do not want to own a Mercedes 4Matic without a warranty.

Buy a new 9-5 for 15k, and pay 4-5k for a third party warranty. You're still 10-15k ahead of the game.

I may or may not end up doing this for my 2010 9-5 Aero. I have had 11,000 trouble free miles over the last 14 months, I'm on the fence about this.

Assuming that some third party does not buy Saab as a whole entity out of the bankruptcy estate, the big problem is spare parts -- body panels, airbags, Saab-specific stuff that you'd have to replace in even a relatively modest accident. If you can't fix the car to begin with, warranties are not the problem.

(reviews insurance policy to make sure it covers rental cars while main vehicle is disabled)
 
#25 ·
Turbo00 said:
Tough question. I'd take a 6mt 9-3 for low teens, but an NG9-5...I dunno. Lots of parts unique to that car that may never be made available on the aftermarket - you'd have to buy two brand new ones and keep one as a parts car.
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Well at that price they are BOGO

saabkid37 said:
I probably would. My Indy has a 94x sitting out front, I actually kinda like them. 15k hell yes.

I think it won't take long for parts availability, they do after all share half their parts with gm
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Sahred parts yea but other parts might be an issue

GA said:
There are such entities as third party warranty companies, including some reasonably reputable ones. We bought a third party warranty for my wife's 2005 E320 wagon - as one mechanic said to me, you do not want to own a Mercedes 4Matic without a warranty.

Buy a new 9-5 for 15k, and pay 4-5k for a third party warranty. You're still 10-15k ahead of the game.

I may or may not end up doing this for my 2010 9-5 Aero. I have had 11,000 trouble free miles over the last 14 months, I'm on the fence about this.

Assuming that some third party does not buy Saab as a whole entity out of the bankruptcy estate, the big problem is spare parts -- body panels, airbags, Saab-specific stuff that you'd have to replace in even a relatively modest accident. If you can't fix the car to begin with, warranties are not the problem.

(reviews insurance policy to make sure it covers rental cars while main vehicle is disabled)
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If I was a third party warranty co would I cover these cars??? ... hell yes sure I'll pay to fix that X-drive oops you can't find the parts?? Sorry .. snicker sniker as the car is taken off the road with 4000 in my pocket..

Not usre a warranty without trained repair peopel or parts is worth anything
 
#26 ·
The uncertainty will probably be reflected in the price of the third party warranty, not the availability. The uncertainties argue for a high price - but OTOH there will be a lot of Saab dealers who can't clear their inventory unless they have a warranty to go with the car. There may be some wholesale negotiating going on. Time will tell.
 
#27 ·
Regarding Warranty of Saab Cars | SaabsUnited.com

Regarding Warranty of Saab Cars
December 21, 2011 in News

UNITED STATES:
Statement made by GM on 20/12/2011: DETROIT - In the event Saab cannot or will not fulfill its obligations to administer the warranty programs with its U.S. and Canadian dealers through Saab Cars North America or otherwise, General Motors will take necessary steps to ensure that remaining warranty obligations on Saab vehicles marketed by GM in the United States and Canada will be honored. (original website here)

EUROPE
Warranty claims are not covered by Saab Automobile AB as stated in the market call on 19/12/2011. (click here) Individual dealers my offer warranty on cars as a good will towards the customer. The administrator for the reconstruction can change this and grant warranty for Saab's cars if he/she chooses to do so.

WORLD WIDE
SAAB Parts continue to operate as a stand alone entity, it has not been affected by the bankruptcy. For Swedish car makers delivery parts for discontinued cars are guaranteed by law up to 10 years after the model went out of production. Since Saab Parts is a profitable company, parts should not be an issue for Saab's cars for a long time.

Several private companies are also supplying parts to Saab's worldwide. Examples of such are MapTun, Neo Brothers, RBM Performance, State of Nine and SAAB USA PARTS.
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#29 ·
I think those cars are worth that price as collectibles, not as daily drivers. No parts and no warranty are a bad deal even at $15-20k on a new SAAB.
 
#30 ·
Since Saab is gone now, my motivation to buy a new one (to help save the brand) is gone as well. I wouldn't buy any new GM cars regardless of price, It's not like buying one now is going to help Saab. I hope GM has to sit on these for years and looses their ass! Once prices dip below the $10k mark I'd get one just out of principal. but until then. Fuck you GM! You can sit on your inventory and lose money!

:violent-smiley-010::angry::shoot::cussing::rant:
 
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#31 ·
Well that's nice to hear, guess my wife's 08 is safe for what little remains of the warranty. And, while its great that Sweden SAYS they have to provide parts for ten years, as anyone waiting for a key knows, that's a bunch of bullshit. Hopefully this changes once the suppliers begin selling directly to dealerships, saab parts NA, resellers, etc.
 
#32 ·
aireeca said:
The 9-4x is less than 500 from what I've read.
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500 made, less than 200 hundred sold and they never made it out of North America. Possibly the rarest new car in the world.

If the 9-5 Combi had come to market, I would have considered buying one on the cheap, but I have no use for a sedan. I like the 9-4x, but I need an SUV/CUV like I need a hole in my head.
 
#33 ·
I still think the parts situation is too shaky. There are a couple of different possibilities here, having lived through reporting on some of this in Cleveland during 2008:

1. There is a moderate stash of parts being held by suppliers made when they thought Saab was still good for the money.

2. There is no stash of parts being held by suppliers because they delivered all of them and then got stiffed by Saab for the money.

and most dire of them all

3. The suppliers have moved on and there will be no more parts until they retool their lines and start making parts again to comply with Swedish law. That could take months before the first bit and bob rolls off the line.

Bottom line? Don't lose your keys. Don't break anything NAPA can't replace.
 
#38 ·
But eventually the parts get made, correct?

It's going to be tight for awhile until the situation settles down but as it relates to a decision to buy a new car or not, parts availability over the next 12 months shouldn't be the controlling factor.

If the price is right, that is.

aireeca said:
I still think the parts situation is too shaky. There are a couple of different possibilities here, having lived through reporting on some of this in Cleveland during 2008:

1. There is a moderate stash of parts being held by suppliers made when they thought Saab was still good for the money.

2. There is no stash of parts being held by suppliers because they delivered all of them and then got stiffed by Saab for the money.

and most dire of them all

3. The suppliers have moved on and there will be no more parts until they retool their lines and start making parts again to comply with Swedish law. That could take months before the first bit and bob rolls off the line.

Bottom line? Don't lose your keys. Don't break anything NAPA can't replace.
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#39 ·
GA said:
If the price is right, that is.
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Exactly my feeling. If I can get a brand new $46,000 car that I like, for 18K... just because of a few short term parts parts availability "questions" as well as a lack of factory warranty support... Well Yes, it would have to be quite a deal, but at less than 1/2 the price. I would "consider" it for sure... If it's really as bad as some people make it out to be, these cars will end up in the junk yards in short order, and there will be PLENTY of parts supply at that point ;)
 
#40 ·
I am seriously considering this, with the thought that as long as guys will be around to fix them ( with software and WIS and whatnot) and over time parts will be avaialble but I cannot magine it being worthwhile for anyone to tool and make parts for a line of cars that there are only what like 5000 worldwide? ( NG9-5) or only 200 ( 9-4) but parts that are compatible across other GM platforms will be ok ....
 
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