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Old 01-15-2015, 03:05 AM   #1
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Gearbox oil question

For the millionth time I know... but have to ask as there as so many opinions out there....

It is Jan 15, 2014... Have a 1997 Saab 900T manual trans with 150K miles. At the moment shifts ok. Last gearbox oil change was 55K ago.

I want to change the gearbox oil. To?

I keep reading about Redline MT-90. Or, what would you do here in 2015? tx
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I always had the GM 0063 stuff in my viggen, worked great.
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Honestly, any good MTF will work. I am about to put Royal Purple synchromesh in my 9-5, but my fill plug is stripped
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That sounds like a ton of fun, Mike.
Gonna weld a nut to it?
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That sounds like a ton of fun, Mike.
Gonna weld a nut to it?
I think I could get a pipe wrench on the very edge, apart from that I'll have to be creative.
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Excellent. Thank you for posting this reply about redline MT-90. I will probably run with that.

Another question, picking nits am sure. I have been studying redline MT-90 and there are two bottles... a red one and yellow one. They are labeled slightly differently. Something to do with sulphur, brass components, etc. There appears to be a difference.

Which bottle should I run with for a 1997 900T manual?

I know, going based on a color of a bottle is not exactly science, but may as well as it this way, or if there is an exact name for the redline MT-90, that would be cool.

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Honestly, any good MTF will work. I am about to put Royal Purple synchromesh in my 9-5, but my fill plug is stripped
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Old 01-16-2015, 12:35 AM   #7
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Ok, last question on the matter. Have read a gobful of posts on gear box selections. Am about to go with Redline MT-90. Live in Colorado Springs, CO, where it is basically temperate, only getting real cold now and then. As the trany has 150K on it, figured to try a little thicker gearbox oil. Having said that... which would ya'lls go with:

Redline MT-90

or

Pennzoil Synchromesh Manual Transmission Fluid

Have read a lot of reviews and the latter seems to favor higher mileage trannys.

Thoughts?
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I was going to buy the Pennzoil or RP but I ended up with RP only because it was less expensive on Amazon, or something stupid like that. Both are fine.
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The interwebs is full of myths and lore, but a recurring theme is that the Royal Purple stuff eats the bronze in modern transmissions, that, or it leaves Sulfur deposits on the bronze surfaces. A friend of mine put the RP synthetic stuff in his 528 and the shift quality became noticeably worse over time.
I'd go with the redline if you need to. Personally, I use the MTF0063 or Honda synthetic. Both are highly regarded as the best fluids out there. The redline makes a close third going by straw-pole.
Royal purple has an excellent marketing department IMHO. Going by BITOG, RP makes it's gains in HP by sacrificing lubricity. This equates to more wear and worse shear resistance.
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The interwebs is full of myths and lore, but a recurring theme is that the Royal Purple stuff eats the bronze in modern transmissions, that, or it leaves Sulfur deposits on the bronze surfaces. A friend of mine put the RP synthetic stuff in his 528 and the shift quality became noticeably worse over time.
I'd go with the redline if you need to. Personally, I use the MTF0063 or Honda synthetic. Both are highly regarded as the best fluids out there. The redline makes a close third going by straw-pole.
Royal purple has an excellent marketing department IMHO. Going by BITOG, RP makes it's gains in HP by sacrificing lubricity. This equates to more wear and worse shear resistance.
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Ehhhhhhhh, maybe. I have never seen an ad from RP. Does redline make anything that isnt 75w80 or 90? That stuff is much heavier than our 0063 or any othe MTF.
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I think you want Red Line 58304, it's their NS version, or the Saab 0063. You don't want friction modifiers, for sure in the later boxes, same I think for the earlier ones too.
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Ehhhhhhhh, maybe. I have never seen an ad from RP. Does redline make anything that isnt 75w80 or 90? That stuff is much heavier than our 0063 or any othe MTF.
I believe this is naming convention alone. That is to say 75w80 gear oil is about the same as 10w40 motor oil. I am not sure on the conversion, but several old timers have insisted it is the same thing. All I know is that the weight is not discrete, which would be the intelligent way to assay oils, but rather it is contextual; the same weights in different systems confer different nominal weights.
I only use MT0063 or the Honda stuff, as I previously said. This is because I am an easily confused creature and am subject to herd mentality, oh, that, and perhaps because I like the feel of those fluids, but I rely on the interwebs to make my mind up for me.
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I think I used the MTL in my NG in the past and was unimpressed.
Did a full flush and switched to the 0063 and it made an improvement.

Next I am going to try the Pennzoil SYnchromesh.
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We just put delco syncromesh in mine.
I didn't realize that the pennzoil was so much less-expensive. I think I payed $16/qt of the GM, and Pennzoil was $9/qt when I looked online.

That being said, The trans had 30wt synthetic engine oil in it for the last 50k miles with zero problems, and a clean-ish magnet.
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hi I have a my car 93 aero 2005 my kilometer is 17778 km , I buy this car use and I don't know the history for gearbox oil changed ,

please advice me if I can changed our , how much kilo meter should I change the gear box oil ?

or I cant change at all .
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