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Old 10-31-2005, 05:16 PM   #1
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Sea Foam in a turbo engine?

I ran Sea Foam in my last car, the 98 NA with no problems. I really think it made a difference. It was pretty noticeable. My question is, as long as I use a safe vacuum line, is it still ok to use Sea Foam on a turbo engine?
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WTF is sea foam? thought that was a color

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it's some kind of engine treatment / injector cleaner. I think it's similar to "marval mystery oil"

I doubt it could hurt anything but I always wonder about what, if anything, gas and oil additives do.
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yeah id keep an eye on the warnings on the bottle, might do funny things with the turbo, i know that most if not all engine oil flushes say specifically not to use them on turbo cars.

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Old 10-31-2005, 05:28 PM   #5
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I think it made a difference in the NA... I'll just have to try it and see.
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yeah id keep an eye on the warnings on the bottle, might do funny things with the turbo, i know that most if not all engine oil flushes say specifically not to use them on turbo cars.

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they say that because of the high oil temps in turbo cars. you could very well catch your oil on fire and have the engine quite literally explode!

now that's only with the engine flush, which is basically kerosene
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I have heard it is not a good idea on turbo cars. It can damage the turbo.
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it's some kind of engine treatment / injector cleaner. I think it's similar to "marval mystery oil"

I doubt it could hurt anything but I always wonder about what, if anything, gas and oil additives do.
MOST additives are bad if used more then once... but on the other hand MOST additives don't do shit other then fuck shit up later in life. Read the "contains:" if you see ANY form of Alcohol in the bottle - don't buy/use it. It will do nothing but fuck things up man.

A few KNOWN GOOD additives are Chevron - with Techron (injector cleaner)
Anything made by Chevron - good stuff

Another thing to look into - GM Top Engine Cleaner - shit works, and is VERY hazerdous (sold at any GM Dealership) But I'll post a how to sometime on that stuff - it's awesome shit. Cleans EVERYTHING on the top end of your motor overnight! (and it's proven to work!)

Addatives - just be cautious as to what you "toss into your car"
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so methanol, would that clog a cat?
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so methanol, would that clog a cat?
No, just corrode all your fuel lines if you use it often. Though it's a lot less harmfull when there is no water.

Also, ethanol isn't as harmfull as people think. Most Saabs are designed to be able to take 10-15% by volume. And many cars, such as WRX's, need only have their injectors changed to run on E85, which is 85% methanol.

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I've heard really good things about BG 44K and I have seen it on a Saab mechanic's bench at the dealership. It was recommended to me a while ago, but that stuff ain't cheap! At $20.00 a bottle, it better wash and wax my car too!

Anybody know anything about it?
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As far as an engine flush on turbo cars, I remember reading that certain ingredients in an engine flush product can actualy "cook" on the turbo's bearings and obviously seize the turbo.......

As far as fuel injector cleaner, I would think it is harmless (read the label) but regardles of what the label says, any aditives you put in the fuel for whatever reason it is, it may throw a CEL as the ecu detects abnormal combustion or something...... had that happen with an octane booster.....
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I love MOST of B&G's products (as they cost me nothing ) and I tend to have "extra's" at times. The alcohol limit is 10% as a rule of thumb for ALL cars. Once you exceed that limit - you begin to damage your injectors and the fuel lines. You want a alcohol powered Saab - convert the fuel system! (but the fuel costs are much more then petrol per gallon - near $20 a gallon) Near Atco NJ (the race track and town) there are pumps which have 103 Octaine still and it's not cheap - but it's safer then addativesby about 100 track pulls.
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I've heard really good things about BG 44K and I have seen it on a Saab mechanic's bench at the dealership. It was recommended to me a while ago, but that stuff ain't cheap! At $20.00 a bottle, it better wash and wax my car too!

Anybody know anything about it?
I love BG 44K, the stuff is awsome!! It is completely worth the 20$ I like putting it in and then watching the MPG increase on the SID, its my little part to help my wallet and the environment. Seriously though, the stuff works, just try it, I mean, you can barely get half a tank of gas for 20$ these days I also tried the BG oil additive ( I was getting a little bit of lifter noise and "clicking" on start up) I was a little apprehensive at first because it had the consistancy of mollases or honey, kinda looked like honey too. But I figured since I am running 10/30 Mobil 1 full synthetic it would be ok. It completely got rid of all lifter noise and the pesky "clicking" that I was slowly convincing myself was the timing chain As for any effect on the turbo, I can not be certain because I have now upgraded to a GT series turbo, but my old T25 with over 100k miles still spins fine with very minimal shaft play, also consider the fact that I am very peculiar about my oil changes (every 3k miles no matter what). Just thought I would share my experiences.

I also run Marvel Mystery in my SPG, although I can not really say if it has helped tremendously, but it has had no ill effects (in the gas, not the oil). I tried it because the guy at SOC with 965+k miles on his car, im sure everyone who reads nines or was at SOC knows who I am talking about, swore by it, and also swore by using Mobil 1 supersyn in the tranny- havent tried that yet though- even though I probably wont.
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The alcohol limit is 10% as a rule of thumb for ALL cars.
A good rule of thumb perhaps, but not true on the Subarus AFAIK. It might be true on Saabs, but a number of folks in Sweden are running E85 in their 9000 Aeros with, as I understand it, minimal modification. But, since I don't have all the details, I wouldn't try it just yet.

There's a really really good thread about E85 in gasoline engines (specifically the WRX, caveat lector) here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803341

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there are many pumps around here I have seen with a little sticker "this gas contains 10% methanol" I think the "danger" to fuel systems is overrated, the injectors are just metal solenoids and most of the fuel lines are a gas rated plastic. you are not going to damage any car with a gas additive that contains ethotal/methanal because that would put your percentage of it in your fuel system well under 10% also, 10% is more or less a safety factor. almost any car would probably run fine on a 50/50 mix for years but eventually the fuel pump seals some o-rings or a fuel line would fail on the expressway and you would have a nice little barbq

in the future I would bet you are going to see more cars that can take a much higher mix. if you could run 50/50 mixture in every car, we would burn about 1/2 as much gasoilne.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:35 PM   #17
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Seafoam is awesome stuff, as is regular water for engine cleaning. I read a lot about it and used it when I had a Camry with some lifter noise. When sucked in through a vacuum hose into the engine it expands rapidly removing deposits from the internals. Good rule of thumb to change oil after using any additive like this. What I read is that plain water does the same, and that either is bad for a turbo because the expanding liquid can damage the compressor blades.
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my frriend who has a volvo (not sure which model but it has a turbo) used it and told me that it was amazing. so i tried it to clean the intake valves on the 900se by sucking it through my bpv vacuum line and the stuff is great. the motor runs so much better now, so much smoother. and that was about 4 months ago.
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Bump after about a year and a half.

Im considering adding the Seafoam, but noone was really sure on how it would work on a charged car.

Anyone try it on a turbo yet?
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