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Old 09-25-2012, 12:34 PM   #1
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Sway Bar Bushings...The Frame Ones

I think mine are shot as the creaking/popping sound disappears when I spray 'em with WD-40. Transmission barfed MTF0063 on 'em, which probably didn't help. I've been told this is a subframe off/pull-down endeavor. Is this true? I want to throw some poly-bushes in there, hence the performance/mods thread. Any suggestions for the poly bushes? I don't see any on GS and the best I see are on fleebay.

Also, the stanchion arm bushings, the ones that affix the arm to the frame, they look like a ball-in-socket type and not a rubber diaphragm w/metal core setup. The boot or rubber skirt around this assembly is done for. The suspension components do NOT move when I pry on them with a crow-bar. Stock as far as I know @ 123kmi. I cannot get the arm out, so I can't verify...
Should I replace them and with what?
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:12 PM   #2
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Powerflex makes the ARB frame bushings. Obviously you will need to know the bars diameter. Grab the linkage bushings as well if you dont have them.
http://store.powerflexusa.com/saab-9...-2002-p37.aspx
Saab parts, Saab spares and Saab accessories: Polyurethane bushes

As for the stanchion arm bushings, there has always been a debate about them. Nick @ GS says stock Saab is fine and not to step it up to the poly Powerflex ones as it creates unnecessary harshness. I'm not sure if the OEM ones are hydraulic like the control arm bushings. But they do have metal sleeves that rot away and can lead to weird noises and torn up bushings.
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Ouch! ~$50! Saab 900 93 Sway-bar Bushing Set of 2 cars w/sway-bar 4543492 4543518U | eBay
More in my budget. I have the stock roll bar for a base '99. IIRC it is 22mm, SE was 24mm and the Viggen was 19mm.
How accessible is the job?
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I'm sure you'll find someone that says they can shoe horn them in with the subframe in situ. But I had mine down anyway.

You may be able to get away with just lowering the subframe a bit but it would be incredibly tight.
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Yeah... I don't see how you can do it with the subframe up. Perhaps you could loosen the back end and not the front, but there's no space to work.
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Let me guess; the bolts that anchor the strap are some way-too-tiny torx fitting, which by now is covered in 13 years of road filth, rust, and oil. Let me also guess that no matter how you set up it is going to be a painful ordeal where one either strips the bolt orrr thinking you have traction, haul on it and then crush your knuckles/fingers/anything sensitive against some unreasonably salient and sharp thing. Right? Not like anybody thought to get access from below....
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There is only one bolt per clamp. I believe 10mm or 13mm bolt. If I remember correctly, which I probably don't, the bolt is on the rear side of the clamp. With the subframe installed the bolt is more-or-less up against the chassis. So you'd have to drop the subframe enough to expose the bolt and gain enough clearance to swivel the bracket up and out of the front slot.
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Isnt the rear motor mount bolted to the subframe?? If that's the case, wouldnt you need an engine support bar in order to remove the subframe?? Maybe I'm wrong....
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Nope, you're right.
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When I did this I also upgraded the sway bar, stanchion arms, and control arms because I had the old-style ng900 (94-96 IIRC). I did NOT have to remove the subframe. In order to pull the entire old sway bar out it was necessary to lower the rear of the subframe, but that was about it. I believe the bolts are a little tough to get to, but they are not unbearable.

Also, I did all poly bushings and I love the feel...

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CM: You can get them here - http://store.powerflexusa.com/saab-9...-2002-p37.aspx
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