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Old 05-02-2012, 12:47 PM   #1
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W/M Kit Suggestions...

Going to buy a W/M kit. Looking for something to cover all bases, but I don't want to spend $600. I am specifically curious about 1) Required Flow rates/nozzle sizes for 30psi Big T28 and whether a non-progressive type system will work 2) The best kit for the money (cooling mist has a CPU controlled one for $280 for example) 3) Whether it is worth it/general pointers.
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snowperformance stage 2 - hands down

it is a progressive system
and one of the best priced ones (i think i paid less than $400 shipped for mine)
look on ebay, you can get a good deal through there
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:58 PM   #3
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What about 2nd place? I'm looking to spend less than 350 shipped...
Also, how hard is it to dial in?
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EDIT: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Snow-Perform...66921e&vxp=mtr
yah? It says it is limited to 25psi..does this mean it only reads up to 25psi? Or does it konk out past that?
I can live with it if it only reads to 25, then I can make it a little heavier flow @ 25 so it's perfect at 28.
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very easy to dial
1st knob is for maf or map (you want map ofcourse)
2nd knob is at what psi you want it to begin spraying
3rd knob is at what psi you want it to have max flow

it just means by 25psi it is spraying at 100%

ive done some looking around, and i can say that snowperformance was the best bang for your buck
to get the same things from an AEM kit you paid more than double the price
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:45 PM   #5
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I just realized something; If I have to splice this piece into the MAP sensor wires, forget it. Pressure switch or nada. From your wording it would seem that there is a feed wire and then you have to tell the controller what it is obtaining boost from. 'Dis true?
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:16 AM   #6
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Devils Own is also another option. Priced pretty competively too.

Will likely be putting that on the RS6 at some point this summer.
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Labonte's kit is pretty nice, a friend had it in his passat, iirc you could opt to get it with the incar touchscreen which was a little over 500 but without it it was around your pricee range. Came with a couple sizes for injector nozzles.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:31 AM   #8
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Do some reading on evom regarding kits. There is a very good thread with videos of the spray and leakage of certain kits etc, that finally quelled some of the argument over meth kits being good or bad with how many bad kits were blowing motors up.



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I just realized something; If I have to splice this piece into the MAP sensor wires, forget it. Pressure switch or nada. From your wording it would seem that there is a feed wire and then you have to tell the controller what it is obtaining boost from. 'Dis true?
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No splicing wires... just needs a vac line going to it
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Do some reading on evom regarding kits. There is a very good thread with videos of the spray and leakage of certain kits etc, that finally quelled some of the argument over meth kits being good or bad with how many bad kits were blowing motors up.
Do you have a link or any pointer? I've spent some time there as a lurker just getting info and the only threads I've seen are questions like the one I asked here today and answers like the one I got here today, with references to SRT's (FML) or Subie's.
And as for the vac line--sweet!
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I have it bookmarked somewhere. At work now tho



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I have a Snow Performance Stage II in my 1994 Comm Ed. Happy with performance and price. (Now if I can only get the car back on the road.) I mix my own W/M with bottles of Heet and distilled water--50/50 mix. I used my windshield washer bottle as the reservoir.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:41 PM   #13
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Bought it! En-route!
I'll post pics of the install and let you know how it goes! BTW do any of you have a reference point at which I could set the flow vs boost at? Makes tuning a HELL of lot easier!
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get it to start at around 15psi and max flow by 25
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Mine's 8 and 20, but I'm only boosting to about 22. Not sure how to tune NG cars, but being able to advance the timing is what gives a W/M equipped car the real kick in the pants. Just don't run out of juice.
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I highly suggest a flow gauge/tank gauge



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You dont need a tank gauge (it is a nice feature though)
the moment you run out you will know. and you can still drive as long as you dont boost within range of where the w/m is supposed to be on
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Ive got an LED on the dash that tells me when the pump is on, but I don't have a signal to tell me if my tank is getting low. I'm anal though and check it all the time. I also keep a gallon of juice in the trunk. A tank gauge or low signal would tell you if you sprung a leak quicker than the casual checking for sure.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:38 AM   #19
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This puppy is LOADED. Factory direct, and overnight free shipping. Comes with a low level warning. WHERE do you think a good spot to tap the injector into is?
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As close to the throttle opening as possible. The more turbulence and and less restriction, the better.

This is mine on my c900. You can also see I also put some wire loom around my hoses to be sure that I don't get and punctures from engine vibration rub-through.

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