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Old 03-03-2012, 02:31 AM   #1
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It's stage 5 time !!

O.K,
Firstly thanks to everyone who has pointed me in the right direction and given me great advice. Without SC and TSL none of this would be possible.

All of my annoying threads and countless P.M's to everybody has culminated to this, My stage 5 install .
This is the result of 2 years worth of research. Buying bit by bit and sitting it on my workshop bench until I had everything in needed.

Currently I'm at stage 3. Here is a list of what's on the car at the mo.

*Full head rebuild
*Forge BOV
*Port matched cast intake throttle body
*Port matched air intake (turbo)
*Lowered suspension, Custom rear sway bar (doubled up and welded)
*Crossflow Bar & plate IC 27x7x3
*"Big T28" Hybrid turbo (Garrett) Built buy the G-pop shop (Thanks David)
*3' turbo back exhaust (custom)
*RJR 17' rims
*Turbosmart boost gauge
*Stage 3 ecu
* PFS steering rack brace
*K&N Pod filter with Taliaferro heat sheild
*Taliaferro short shifter
*Short belt mod

This is what I have sitting on my bench waiting to go on.

*Viggen clutch & pressure plate (Sachs)
*Clutch cable (OEM)
*Rear main seal & thrust bearing
*Taliaferro Poly engine & trans mounts, (All three)
*Walbro 255 fuel pump
*Bosch "Green giants" fuel injectors (42lb's)
*JZW stage 5 ecu (rev limted to 6500)
*Motec 3 bar map sensor
*E-bay oil catch can

Here is some pics

This is my beloved workshop (man-zone).


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Old 03-03-2012, 02:38 AM   #2
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I'm on holidays from work (3 weeks)

I drop the gearbox in 2 days.

Wish me luck.
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Good luck, you wil have nearly identical mods as me when your done. Makes for a very fun car. Everything should be straight forward just take your time and you should be fine.
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I'm shitting myself about dropping the box.

I've read platonoff's walk thru 100 times.

Fingers crossed
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I'm shitting myself about dropping the box.

I've read platonoff's walk thru 100 times.

Fingers crossed
I've dropped mine like 7 times for various reasons and failures. Getting it out is easy, back in can be frustrating sometimes.
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:05 AM   #6
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I have done my so many times that I can have it out and on the ground in under two hours

Its a bitch to bench press it in though !

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I have done my so many times that I can have it out and on the ground in under two hours

Its a bitch to bench press it in though !

John
This. Over last summer I was trying to diagnose a loss of hydraulic pressure. Had the box in and out now less than 5 times in a few weeks. Turned out the brand new slave was DoA. I was able to have the trans out in about 30 min. I did the bench press move putting it back in too.

The walk through you're using is what I used. Take your time and you'll be good.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:14 PM   #8
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I gone over the gearbox removal so many times in my head that I feel like I've already done it.
I've done 4 RWD's before but never a FWD.
I'm 100% confident. (famous last words ) .

Once I get the clutch replacement done the rest should fall into place.
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COMMON GUYS! GO TO THE GYM! its not any more than 80 lbs, though it it very awkward to handle.. we did my friends honda...in about 4 days... then again. we did take two days to pull the thing off and the fourth day was just bleeding the clutch... bla bla bla long story short we kinda...forgot to take off a bolt though... Anyways, we were two high school kids with nothing but the internet and a book, you should be alright. i mean hey you got us! keep us posted with this, i wanna do this myself!
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I just removed my sub frame and I'm up to the business part "the gearbox"

So far so good.

I'm just pausing for a turkey,cheese & cranberry sauce toasted sambo .
Then I'm back into it.

I should see the flywheel this arvo (fingers crossed).
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I just removed my sub frame and I'm up to the business part "the gearbox"

So far so good.

I'm just pausing for a turkey,cheese & cranberry sauce toasted sambo .
Then I'm back into it.

I should see the flywheel this arvo (fingers crossed).
Nice! The car should be a rocket once it's finished.
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pics make the thread!
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:49 PM   #13
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pics make the thread!
Thanks for the great tip there Easily.

I'm covered in grease and just popped in for a sandwich.

Plenty of pics later on
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:44 PM   #14
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The gear box is out (Hooray).
It was actually really easy, Compared to lifting the head off the gearbox was easier. I panicked for nothing
I must say that Platonoff's walk thru's make it easy. Bro if your out there somewhere, Thanks.

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For those that don't know look at the difference between the standard PP and the Viggen.

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How do you get the rear main seal out, Dig it with a screwdriver?



And can I just degrease all the sticky crud inside the bellhousing?
But be careful of the drive shaft holes I would imagine.



The flywheel goes out to get machined tomorrow
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You can (and should) degrease in there with some brake cleaner and rags. It should clear out some of the clutch surface dust.

also...IIRC, the Haynes manual recommends deglazing the flywheel with some fine steel wool.

While the box is out, think about doing a hydraulic conversion...
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Be very careful when you "dig" out the RMS. When it's out and before you install the new one de-bur the opening with fine steel wool. This is up to you but some use curil-t (me) some don't on the RMS. Pre-fit the RMS first, if it's a tad hard to get in, freeze it and it should slide right in. Do not use a cheap POS RMS or you will be dropping the tranny once again.
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You can (and should) degrease in there with some brake cleaner and rags. It should clear out some of the clutch surface dust.

also...IIRC, the Haynes manual recommends deglazing the flywheel with some fine steel wool.

While the box is out, think about doing a hydraulic conversion...
+1 on the hydro conversion. The hydraulic clutch is a way better feel than the old cable clutch setup, and with your trans out, should be cake. Platonoff has a guide on this too I believe..

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Be very careful when you "dig" out the RMS. When it's out and before you install the new one de-bur the opening with fine steel wool. This is up to you but some use curil-t (me) some don't on the RMS. Pre-fit the RMS first, if it's a tad hard to get in, freeze it and it should slide right in. Do not use a cheap POS RMS or you will be dropping the tranny once again.
+1 , good info here, it can be a pain to get in sometimes (I have taken off and refitted one three times, time 1 and 3 were cake, 2 was not). Use a real OEM RMS.

Good luck with the rest!
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I thought about doing the hydro conversion, But I think I've got my hands full as it is.
I was going to run around for 12 months with the cable, then consider doing the hyrdo conversion when I drop the box again for the LSD install.

Plus my pockets are empty .

My Mrs knows nothing
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Not much happened today, I gave my flywheel to the machinist for surfacing, Cleaned the inside of the bell housing with brake cleaner (Gee, there was some gunk in there).
And basically had a rest day, after all I am on holidays .

Awh yeah , and I chickened out changing the rear main seal. Mine seems dry and I plan on dropping the box again in 12 months time so I will see how it goes.

I was impressed with the way the flywheel came back from the machinist.



The cleaned bell housing (or cleaner than it was)



I was looking at my new release bearing and noticed it was a bit different to the bearing that came out of it. The new bearing is a SKF and I've checked the Eeuroparts site to make sure I bought the right one. And I've also had a trail run with it in the bell-housing and it seems to be O.K

Has anybody else noticed this ?



Also can someone with more knowledge than me recommend what type of grease I should use to lube the clutch mechanism with ?

There is like 38 different types of grease.
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