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Old 01-31-2012, 12:38 AM   #1
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Phantom grip LSD conversion

Hey there all,
Been down my local Saab parts yard today, picked up 93 rear bumper.

Anyway.......
Whilst talking to the owner (ex-factory Saab tech) I was talking about my mods that I am about to do. He asked me if I had heard of an LSD diff conversion called "Phantom Grip" As it turns out, he is the distributor.
He runs it in his race car and has never had a problem with it. And has installed plenty of them
Say's that its good for like 500hp.

But the best part is the price Under $400 bucks.http://www.phantomgrip.com/

Anyone know about these?

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Just Buy a f25 quaife & have him put that in for you.
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Quaife $1200 + delivery

Phantom grip LSD $387 + delivery
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Quaife $1200 + delivery

Phantom grip LSD $387 + delivery
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Are you considering the phantom grip design that bolts through the spider gears making the car unturnable. Or the other even cheesier phantom grip that eliminates the spider & shims the carrier with springs inside? Both designs basicaly Fucking Suck.
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Its got me interested.
Probably no good for anything with a gt30 etc, But for my stage 5 it might be good.

check out the website Harvey, It looks alright.
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Are you considering the phantom grip design that bolts through the spider gears making the car unturnable. Or the other even cheesier phantom grip that eliminates the spider & shims the carrier with springs inside? Both designs basicaly Fucking Suck.
Look, I sure its no where near the quality of a quaife, But for $400 bucks.
Why does the designs suck ?
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I've seen a few f25 spiders jump right through the trasmission case over the years. The Phantom grip isn't going to fix your weak hardware problem. Locking the diff up won't make a weak diff any stonger. It will just fail that much faster. The torque that comes with 4-500hp can easily grenade a f25 or F35 for that matter if its applied at the wrong time. In my opinion the guy trying to sell you the phantom grip is trying to Blow smoke up your arse & sell you a lesser inferior product.

Your spider gears are the ones on the right.
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The time and effort alone to install a new diff should be incentive enough to go with the quaife the first time, IMO.
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I briefly considered one for my SPG years ago. Scanwest in Seattle sells & installs them in boxes they build. They told me they are better then nothing however nowhere close to what a quaife/etc LSD does. So I went a different route

Some claim low power & also slow turns like long sweepers at a roadcoarse the phantomgrips are OK but horrible for high power apps & also fast/quick turns like autox/solo II
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I briefly considered one for my SPG years ago. Scanwest in Seattle sells & installs them in boxes they build. They told me they are better then nothing however nowhere close to what a quaife/etc LSD does. So I went a different route

Some claim low power & also slow turns like long sweepers at a roadcoarse the phantomgrips are OK but horrible for high power apps & also fast/quick turns like autox/solo II
This....

Phantom Grips get much love from the Hondarrrrr crowd because they'e driving light, low-torque vehicles. The reliability in a heavy, high-torque sedan is going to be hugely compromised....
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