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Old 09-26-2011, 07:31 AM   #1
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wheel hub with studs?

I was curious if there was any companies that made aftermarket wheel hubs with studs? Also, has anyone ever ran studs on a saab?
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As far as I know, there are not any hubs that are manufactured with studs already in them (aside from 1987 and older Saabs, but that's not what we're talking about here)

You can get thread-in studs to use a stud and lug-nut setup. And yes, it has been done.

Any particular reason why you want that type of setup?

edit: to give you an idea...
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3788673
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makes changing wheels a hell of a lot easier, thats for sure.

i came very close to doing it. its nice with expensive wheels because you can use a smaller socket and have less risk of damaging the wheels.



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Any particular reason why you want that type of setup?
Saabkid kinda nailed it. Nothing to particular, just making it a little easier to switch wheels out. I'd also like to run some wheel spacers eventually, didn't know if it would make a difference on studs or lugs. Just imagined it would be easier with studs. But if you have to thread studs in, on top of a spacer being added.......sure that wouldn't be a strong set-up.
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You can get thread-in studs to use a stud and lug-nut setup.

im on the verge of doing this, just to get some wacky colored lug nuts
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Saabkid kinda nailed it. Nothing to particular, just making it a little easier to switch wheels out. I'd also like to run some wheel spacers eventually, didn't know if it would make a difference on studs or lugs. Just imagined it would be easier with studs. But if you have to thread studs in, on top of a spacer being added.......sure that wouldn't be a strong set-up.
ive been through this argument before, and bmw guys do it all the time.

a screwed in stud/nut will actually provide more clamping force than a lug set up.

spacers with extended lugs are an absolute pain in the balls.

nice thing is the spacers help stop the whole wheels seizing to the hubs bullshit.



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i bet some saturn/kia/chevy has the hub with lugs
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meh. i got an 8 inch piece of threaded rod at a hardware store for $3 and use that as a wheel hanger. no problems putting wheels on
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i bet some saturn/kia/chevy has the hub with lugs
just like your short shifter thread you need to realize that the og/ng 900/93's dont have anything in common with gm shit. the new gens do.



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im on the verge of doing this, just to get some wacky colored lug nuts
been forced to go to studs because of the thickness of the Hirsch 19" rim....the stock bolts were simply too short, and the guy who sold me the rims didn`t gave me the bolts that were supposedly supplied by Hirsch, together with the rims.
Quite simple task,only make sure you get a wacky color for the nuts (I picked PURPLE, to go wid da ca` )
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Turner motorports has sets you can get in several different lengths that are in our size and thread pitch. A little expensive but when it comes to something like this i would wanna spend that extra buck for safety. I was looking into this when I had my 18's and did a lot of research into what was out there.
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Turner motorports has sets you can get in several different lengths that are in our size and thread pitch. A little expensive but when it comes to something like this i would wanna spend that extra buck for safety. I was looking into this when I had my 18's and did a lot of research into what was out there.
turner is the bomb. there studs and lug bolts have very high tensile strength ratings.



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turner is the bomb. there studs and lug bolts have very high tensile strength ratings.
One of these weekends I wanna take a trip up to their shop and just drool! Lol
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Saabkid kinda nailed it. Nothing to particular, just making it a little easier to switch wheels out. I'd also like to run some wheel spacers eventually, didn't know if it would make a difference on studs or lugs. Just imagined it would be easier with studs. But if you have to thread studs in, on top of a spacer being added.......sure that wouldn't be a strong set-up.
I was kind of tolling for that answer. Where I've seen this the most is in lemons/chump (and I'm sure more serious racing that I've personally never done) where changing tires quickly is pretty damn important.

I've never bothered, or even considered bothering on a daily driver since changing wheels twice a year is hardly difficult enough to put studs on. That said, it sill would be moderately easier.

If spacers are being used, that's a pretty good idea too. The clamping force reason is silly, as if the stock studs don't provide enough force to hold the wheel on. Ha.

Anyway, I'd say go for it, I don't see any drawbacks other then a very small amount of time to install the things. Really though, its just the cost of the kit. Installing them is easy as pie.
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One of these weekends I wanna take a trip up to their shop and just drool! Lol
i always thought they were a reasonably aized shop with a very good reputation. then i was watching a grand am race, in which on saturday they put one of the m3's nose first into the wall, and in under 12 hours made the grid for the race, completely rebuilt. at that point i realized that they are flat out badass. also have an indy car driver driving for them

i wasnt saying to change them out for clamping force purposes, just that when i brought it up a while back someone tried to argue that it was unsafe for lack of clamping force, and they are in fact wrong.



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ive been through this argument before, and bmw guys do it all the time.

a screwed in stud/nut will actually provide more clamping force than a lug set up.
Got some engineering to back that up? For a given stud size and nut face the clamping force will be identical. Not to mention, you can get 86 ft lbs of force without any concerns at all.


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nice thing is the spacers help stop the whole wheels seizing to the hubs bullshit.
How about just cleaning the hub center and putting a thin coat of anti-sieze around it. All done.
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Yes, I'm dumb enough to have never cleaned and anti seized the hubs, how did that idea ever escape me?



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Yes, I'm dumb enough to have never cleaned and anti seized the hubs, how did that idea ever escape me?
If you had then you wouldn't have had problems with them sticking.
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If you had then you wouldn't have had problems with them sticking.
All I see is ignorance coming out of your keyboard at this point.

Surprisingly I'm not the first one to have wheels stick to the point of needing a reasonably sized mallet to remove them, regardless of cleaning, sanding, and anti seize application. But alas, I suppose I'm just not perfect like you.



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