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Old 03-26-2011, 10:40 PM   #1
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Aeromotive 340, Deatschwerks 300lph: new in-tank pumps

Aeromotive 340







340LPH @3 bar pressure
E85 compatible
~$170




Deatschwerks 300lph





100% E85 compatible
300LPH @ 3bar pressure
39mm body
~$170



Found these recently. Anybody ever have their hands on one or used them? These seem to be pretty capable in-tank pumps. At some point I'll need more fuel and a Bosch 044 has always seemed to be the obvious choice but if I can get an in-tank pump that's putting out 33% more than my Walbro, it might be worth looking into.

What I'm thinking is that this could save me on having to get the fittings for an inline and also a way to rig up the fuel filter (if I decide to mount it underneath the chassis.)

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I'd wait and see what nick does with the aeromotive. Personally I don't like aeromotive stuff. I also don't know what their impeller design is.

The dw pump is barely louder than stock.



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Yeah, it looks like I am getting pretty close to 100% with current setup. I imagine that running E85 back at sea level will put me past the limit of a Walbro and possibly my injectors.

Sorry I missed those threads. Not too much excitement goes on in these forums anymore so I assumed a search would be pointless :/

I'll wait awhile to see what others have to say after a few months of use. I'm in no rush for one right now, just thought it was a pretty exciting stuff. Walbro 255's are just so cheap and easy to install - it's nice to have other options.
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I know there was another thread about this, just wanted to post some data a local shop came up with comparing the in-tank Walbro 255, Denso 290lph Supra pump, Aeromotive 11142 340lph, and the Bosch 044 inline.



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Old 05-22-2011, 07:49 PM   #8
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I have been having great luck with the products from Jayracing.com and they also have their own version of the walbro 255, more flow and less amp draw and they personally test each pump before it ships and the flow data is sent with the pump and we know its made in the USA!

Comes with the sumersable fuel line and clamps too.

I have had great luck so far with these pumps !

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I was just gonna post that data for you today lol.

The problem with the "modded" walbros is you almost always lose any warranty. Plus some have died prematurely after being punched out.

I'm leaning towards the stealth at this point, but the dw doesn't seem to have been given a fair compare yet...



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I have had no failures so far and since it comes with flow data of that actual pump, it is a win win for me, do not care about a 100 buck warranty, but they would warranty the pump.

I have had some walbros flow less than the failing stock pump out of the box at least 3 times in the last few years and have been through about 7 pumps in my 4 cars in 5 years and have seen my close group of guys go through at least 4-5 of them, two lasted exactly 24 hours and one lasted 48 hours and one lasted 2 weeks, these have been going for months and so far so good.

Saying that, I do have an "oem" walbro 255 in my 9k that is almost 4 years old now, its a record for me

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Sounds like they should have bought them from the right place to begin with I picked mine up from that one place you mentioned way back and haven't had any issue with it.
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What about the bosch o40?
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I think that's pretty much the in-tank version of the 044. Data shouldn't be much different, if at all.
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Sounds like they should have bought them from the right place to begin with I picked mine up from that one place you mentioned way back and haven't had any issue with it.
They were all bought from the same place.... success rate??????????

Not so good, so that is why I am switching to the Jay racing pump that outflows both the aeromotive and the oem walbro and does it with less amp draw and is tested and proven before its shipped out the door
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Oh I was thinking that you were buying them elsewhere before you switched to the other place (can't think of the name for the life of me) where I bought mine also.
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i just bought the aeromotive 11140 for my setup today. id like to give them a try and give some feedback to everyone. if it goes bad than im switching to jay's racing but i got a good feeling about this pump
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Oh I was thinking that you were buying them elsewhere before you switched to the other place (can't think of the name for the life of me) where I bought mine also.
I have bought many over the years and most came from fiveomotorsports.com, but I did get some through lighteningmotorsports.com and I get them for other people too and I usuallly try to keep at least one or two 255's laying around, just like plugs and oil, etc, but I have just had horrible luck with fuel pump inserts and I know the 3 indy shops around me have also had horrible luck and all 3 of them will no longer do a pump insert job and only do the fuel pump assembly that cost nearly 400 bucks, so that puts the cost of a fuel pump for a ng900 at close to 800-1000 bucks!

I do know one shop that swears he has done a ton over the years and never had one return, he is the oddball out. I do know the fuel pump assembly pump kits almost never fail within a few years and I would love to know what the difference is between the pumps or how they are installed, is the actual pump that is better or is there something people are doing wrong, not getting the housing clean enough or what, but this one baffles me a little bit...

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I haven't sold a pump assembly in years for NG900/9-3/9-5, we install the stock capacity Walbro pump, but I get them from one of my wholesalers and it's actually a Walbro.

I haven't seen a comeback yet, but these are not running big power - I'd be suspicious you're getting those hack job 'fake' pumps.

I do have 2 customers with 255 conversions and they've both been going strong almost 2 years, but they brought in their own pumps, don't remember where they came from.
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I have bought many over the years and most came from fiveomotorsports.com, but I did get some through lighteningmotorsports.com and I get them for other people too and I usuallly try to keep at least one or two 255's laying around, just like plugs and oil, etc, but I have just had horrible luck with fuel pump inserts and I know the 3 indy shops around me have also had horrible luck and all 3 of them will no longer do a pump insert job and only do the fuel pump assembly that cost nearly 400 bucks, so that puts the cost of a fuel pump for a ng900 at close to 800-1000 bucks!

I do know one shop that swears he has done a ton over the years and never had one return, he is the oddball out. I do know the fuel pump assembly pump kits almost never fail within a few years and I would love to know what the difference is between the pumps or how they are installed, is the actual pump that is better or is there something people are doing wrong, not getting the housing clean enough or what, but this one baffles me a little bit...

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one trick is to open the assembly without braking the top
second one is to properly fix the aftermarket fuel filter
last and mostly overlooked is to use special, submersed fuel hoses

those, aside buying a genuine fuel pump, not one made on a vessel, in the swing of the waves
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