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Old 12-18-2009, 07:53 PM   #1
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9-3 viggen advice

hello everyone i recently got my 5th saab
a 2000 saab 9-3 viggen monte carlo yellow 4dr
it has
6pt subframe
rear sway bar
steering brace
bsr stage 1
custom 3in catback resonator delete
open air intake

i want stage 3 but im not sure if nordic will downgrade my hp
being that bsr claims 276hp 311tq with stage 1
and nordic is 290hp 310 tq

also after stage 3 what is a bolt on bigger turbo for a viggen i looked on maptun but cant find one that is direct bolt on..

also if anyone is selling any 9-3 stuff im open to buy
looking from anything from brake rotors and pads to a downpipe and software.
thanks ill post pics soonn






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A stage 1 tune only does so much. Tunes in conjunction with hardware,mainly a 3" downpipe is where real gains come from.

I would not put much stock in BSRs claims. The key word is CLAIM.

Tuner aside, a stage 1 tune from any of them should be less aggressive/powerful compared to any stage 3 tune with matching hardware.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:08 PM   #3
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thanks so much this is the kind of info i was looking for
what is better nordic or JZW
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thanks so much this is the kind of info i was looking for
what is better nordic or JZW
I can think of pluses and minuses with both. Go with what fits your wallet and comfort zone better. In general, basic stage 1-3 tunes are more alike from one tuner to the next than they are different.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:17 PM   #5
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im looking for a used nordic ecu if not new jzw
by the way where did you buy your rear hatch brace for the viggen from
and is it hard to install a indash?
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im looking for a used nordic ecu if not new jzw
by the way where did you buy your rear hatch brace for the viggen from
and is it hard to install a indash?
thnks
That brace was MP, it really didn't do anything and was $75. Nick's brace at GS actually works from what I have read.

There are writeups I think from other people who installed an in-dash, I said screw it and had it mine installed by my local shop since I had a pretty complex setup in mind.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:22 PM   #7
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nicks it nice i think i might get the removable one
what stage was your vigg?
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I've got the removable hatch brace in my 9-3 and absolutely love it. Helps a bit with hatch rattle noise too, so that's a plus.
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nicks it nice i think i might get the removable one
what stage was your vigg?
Mine was Nordic Stage 4

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I've got the removable hatch brace in my 9-3 and absolutely love it. Helps a bit with hatch rattle noise too, so that's a plus.
If I had kept my car, that brace and the GS shifter were next on the list.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:32 PM   #10
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shifter sounds nice
and so does the brace
i never knew where that rattle was coming from
thanks for helping
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thanks so much this is the kind of info i was looking for
what is better nordic or JZW
Didn't JZW take an SQR tune (might have been BSR) and end up making more power with less boost? I think I heard it from Saabeh
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im doing jzw in about 2weeks after christmas moneyy
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Old 12-19-2009, 05:02 AM   #13
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this & that...

JZW is good for the budget
But don't throw the Santa's money without a bigger intercooler and a new clutch (Viggen clutch kit will hold up to 280 HP, without problem).
Also, think about the GS short shifter: it rocks!
As bolt-on turbo, you have to decide now what do you want from your Viggen, because if you go for a bigger turbo, you will need a new soft, so better put all the hardware on the car and only then go for soft. Just my humble advise.
The biggest bolt-on turbo is TD04-HL19 with the 6cm^2 exhaust housing...good for some 340 HP and 480Nm.
Keep us updated and good luck.
P.S. Why did you looked at maptun? Are you in Europe ? Otherwise, think Nick T., JSP or JZW
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:58 AM   #14
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no i checked maptun usa
i only want a turbo from maptun because i didnt find turbos from anyone else
how much better is short shifter like how is the feel compared to stock?
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I would not worry about the clutch at stage 3. As long as you have a good clutch now, you should be fine. I put 40k on my stock clutch while stage 3-4 and it never slipped. They took it out at 55k and said it was only half worn.
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:49 AM   #16
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i learned stick on my 79k clutch
now at 82k
im worried it might need changing
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:25 AM   #18
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hopefully.
and thanks
the vigg is a blast compared to a jaguar
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Old 12-19-2009, 02:40 PM   #19
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I've got a 9000 aero td-04 6cm that would be perfect for you to make into a 18T or 19T.
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