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Old 12-05-2009, 12:21 PM   #1
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Modification to GS Steering Rack Clamp & Brace

So I installed the Koni Kit on my car. Like a few others I experienced the knock of the tierod on the brace that goes over it and bolts onto the inner fender. So I brought this up to a welding friend and now my problem has been solved (see attached).

It's a piece of round hollow stock in place of the solid stock. The rise of brace is 1 1/2" higher. No more knocking. Not even with the sharpest impacts or hardest cornering. I will take it off and get it powder coated at the same time as the Vig/Aero calipers for next spring.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:49 PM   #2
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Yay

Although I don't think mine knocks at all.
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Did this sound like "bang, bang"???

I've had this noise on and off again for over a year since I had my Koni struts and springs installed. Nick at Taliaferro kept claiming it was the strut mounts, even though I've had 2 new sets of strut mounts and bearing plates in the car, and it still makes the noise. I also heard that Koni was marking the springs incorrectly and that it was possible that my springs were installed upside down. I never flipped the springs cause I didn't buy into this.

If this is the solution I'll be happy and pissed at the same time. Pissed at Taliaferro for not figuring this out, and happy that I've finally figured out what was making this noise.
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Mine was doing the same thing after I lowered it with the vogtlands... Came to find out I had it installed in the wrong hole. There was one more hole above the one I was using. This solved the problem.

Judging by your pic it looks as if you may have done the same thing I did.
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If this is the solution I'll be happy and pissed at the same time. Pissed at Taliaferro for not figuring this out, and happy that I've finally figured out what was making this noise.


If you mean figuring out that replacing a nice straight load bearing reinforcement with a drastically curvy one placed in tension / compression and hoping to have the same results, then you can go right on being unsatisfied.









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I've had this noise on and off again for over a year since I had my Koni struts and springs installed. Nick at Taliaferro kept claiming it was the strut mounts, even though I've had 2 new sets of strut mounts and bearing plates in the car, and it still makes the noise. I also heard that Koni was marking the springs incorrectly and that it was possible that my springs were installed upside down. I never flipped the springs cause I didn't buy into this.

If this is the solution I'll be happy and pissed at the same time. Pissed at Taliaferro for not figuring this out, and happy that I've finally figured out what was making this noise.
It was easy to test and spot. Jacked-up the car. Then jacked up on the wheel. Watched the tierod raise as we did so I stooped shy of making contact with the brace, it was clear if I jacked more it would hit. I checked the underside of the brace there was a significant mark from the tie ride hitting it. Jacked further to be sure it would contact. It did so w/ more spring compression left to go. As for the strut mount theory, mine are brand spanking new.

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Mine was doing the same thing after I lowered it with the vogtlands... Came to find out I had it installed in the wrong hole. There was one more hole above the one I was using. This solved the problem.

Judging by your pic it looks as if you may have done the same thing I did.
Well then, I will have to look at things to be sure.

It certainly looks like they chose a higher location on their site:



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If you mean figuring out that replacing a nice straight load bearing reinforcement with a drastically curvy one placed in tension / compression and hoping to have the same results, then you can go right on being unsatisfied.

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No noticeable negative change in feel. Just less clunking when high loads are placed on the passenger side front wheel. Thanks.
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:50 AM   #7
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There is no need to modify it if it is installed correctly as shown in the photo tutorial.
http://www.genuinesaab.com/catalog/p...products_id=36 I run this exact part on my Viggen with the coilovers dropped to the ground and still have clearance. Now bolted to the wrong place it will hit for sure.

PS it is rather difficult to diagnose noises by email.
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There is no need to modify it if it is installed correctly as shown in the photo tutorial.
Yep. Found that out this morning as indicated in my post above. My FAIL.

At least the round stock makes something stronger and lighter.

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Old 12-15-2009, 04:37 PM   #9
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I also heard that Koni was marking the springs incorrectly and that it was possible that my springs were installed upside down. I never flipped the springs cause I didn't buy into this.
This is fact, not fiction. Specifically, the 'up' arrow that was placed on the springs was in fact pointed in the opposite direction. I can't speak for the current versions of the kit but this was the case with mine (and two other people that I know) when I had it installed in July '05.

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Well I finally got around to looking at this (no free Saab time for me in a long time and I only drive it in the Summer).

I do have it mounted in the correct top hole.

So now I'm thinking that the springs are installed upside down thanks to bad markings from Koni as I've put in two different strut bearing plates and mounts and the knocking noise is still there.

Ughhh....
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Dean,
In your picture it is most certainly mounted wrong. See the corner of the black plastic and compare this to the picture above from my site.


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Nick-That is my pic. I am the origonal poster. I did have it in a lower hole as indicated in my prior posts. It was my modification and mistake you are seeing there.

Dean didn't post a pic. I am not sure what location he is using.
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Sorry liketheword..

Dean, Have you checked the strut insert into the upright the big ring nut? Those are commonly left loose or the shop reuses the original nut and damages the damper.

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Well I finally got around to looking at this (no free Saab time for me in a long time and I only drive it in the Summer).

I do have it mounted in the correct top hole.

So now I'm thinking that the springs are installed upside down thanks to bad markings from Koni as I've put in two different strut bearing plates and mounts and the knocking noise is still there.

Ughhh....
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Must be a rough day. We all have-em.

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Too much going on..
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Too much going on is chasing around sick 10 month old twin girls that are going on 14 and working 60+ hours a week.
lol....deep breath....
Nick I'll have to check...still trying to get my TD04 turbo issue straightened out (I still owe you a core intake housing). Time is not mine anymore. Lots of parts accumulating with zero time to install them.
When you are young you have all the time in the world to work on your cars and no money.
When you get older, you have the money to work on your cars but no time!!!!
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When you are young you have all the time in the world to work on your cars and no money.
When you get older, you have the money to work on your cars but no time!!!!
Oh so true, and I am not even old yet and this is starting. (few years out of college) My car has been in the garage for about 3-4 weeks because I just don't have time to do all work.
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