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Old 11-18-2009, 10:17 AM   #1
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slugging 93 2.0 vs. viggen 2.3

hey id like to know weather the viggen has slugging problems like the 9.3 worse or better? or at all?
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:20 AM   #2
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yup.

doesn't matter between 2.3 or 2.0

pull the valve cover and drop the pan and see how it looks!
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:35 AM   #3
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Both are good at slugging it out!
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cool i was wondering im freeking out, thinkin bout getting my hands on first saab and it might be a viggen.. cant calm down bout it but thanks, any other problems i should look into?
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:37 AM   #5
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as far as the sludging just make sure you have the oil pan dropped, and the oil pickup screen cleaned out.

what kind of mileage is on the car? pictures?
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:37 AM   #6
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much to worry about at 100,000?
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cant seem to get the pic up..
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:16 PM   #8
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which 9-3 engine? t5 or t7 edition?

I thought t7 were more likely to sludge earlier but any engine will with poor matience.

but... my (t5) 1999 9-3 2.0 b204 sludged at 145,000.
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at the shop we seem to see sludging in the lower milage engines (100k and down) and also around 160k seems to be the trend, we drop all pans
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:18 PM   #10
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i think t7's were just because of the poor pcv kit. but either are at risk.

if its a viggen it is t7.

i would pull the valve cover, drop the pan, clean the pickup screen. re-assemble.

flush all fluids(SAABMTF in the trans) and install PCV #6 update.
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I'm sorry but when I read the title of this thread I thought it was something about a slow, slug 9-3 2.0 vs a Viggen.
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:54 PM   #12
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As long as the oil changes have been done when they were supposed to and the car has good service history, you are probably fine.
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i think t7's were just because of the poor pcv kit. but either are at risk.

if its a viggen it is t7.

i would pull the valve cover, drop the pan, clean the pickup screen. re-assemble.

flush all fluids(SAABMTF in the trans) and install PCV #6 update.
also, because the oil pan is so close to the catalytic converter
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:02 PM   #15
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My sister's '99 9-5 had sludging issues at 62k miles. But I think it was due to poor maintenance on that car, looked like someone was changing oil every 10k miles before she got it. The pick up screen was about 80% clogged.

My Viggen has had no issues at all at 80k, the pick up screen had just a couple of "coffee grinds" in it. NO pcv upgrade on it either. I thought the later 9-3's, '02 and '03 had some serious sludge issues, but mine has been good so far.

My 9k Aero has close to 210k on it and absolutely no issues, and no synthetic. Runs regular Castrol GTX. All my pre -T7 Saabs have had no issues at all with sludging and I only experienced it first hand with the 9-5, a T7.
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Also, it would help to know if and when the MAF and DIC were replaced. I would replace the MAF at 100k if it hasn't been done yet and get a spare DIC.
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Old 11-18-2009, 09:08 PM   #17
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cool thanks for the info its a 99 viggen tho im not sure it is a t7 or a t5, i was plannin on droppin the pan and doin the flush becuz i tend not to trust other car owners with such maintnence.. lol idk weather any thing has been replaced yet but ill look deeper into it when i see it myself.. thanks again..
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Old 11-18-2009, 09:09 PM   #18
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hah sorry i shouldve made a better title.. this is true..
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:42 AM   #19
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all viggens are t7.

drop the pan, do the PCV #6 update, flush all the fluids.

good call on the MAF and DI, might want to consider doing the CPS at the same time if it hasn't already been replaced.
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:47 PM   #20
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cool where could i get the cps and pvc ?
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