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Old 10-12-2009, 11:23 AM   #1
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1999 B235E swap into a 2001 9-3

A few friends and I are in the process of swapping a B235E from a 99 LPT 9-5 into a 01 HOT 9-3. So far everything has gone smoothly. The 9-3 had a blown B205R sitting in it, so we swapped the accessories (alt, ps pump, a/c comp), the TD04, and the intake mani/sensors/injectors over to the B235E. My ecu was tuned for my mods and engine (Thanks JZW!).

So here is the problem. Both car's have different automatic transmissions with different flex/drive plates. We pulled the the flex/drive plate off the blown B205R and attached it to the B235E we were dropping in since we were using the 9-3 trans and that flex/drive plate goes with the 9-3 trans. We figured since the blocks were identical, this was the way to go.

Once we dropped the motor in, and bolted the bellhousing to the block, we went to put in the torque converter bolts to secure it to the flex/drive plate. However we could not turn the crank at all. We broke the crank pulley bolt loose several times and probably over tightened it but the motor would not turn over.

When we pulled the B235E from my wrecked 9-5 we had zero issues rotating the crank and pulling all the TC bolts out. So I know the motor is not seized. The starter was not in place either so that wasn't holding anything up.

We have not pulled the motor back out because it was getting late/dark, and we all work full time, so we wont be pulling it till next weekend, but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what might be binding.

We're 100% sure the flywheel is not on backwards because we were able to see it through the various inspection holes on the trans/motor.

Also, when we removed the pan, we're thinking maybe one of the oil tubes dislodged and is not holding the crank, but this is not very likely since the crank would still be able to move at least one way. Also, the tube probably would've just crushed under the force of us trying to rotate the crank and it would've move at least some.

Another thing that might have happened is that the crank pulley binding from getting banged around a little bit when taking the motor out. That's a quick thing to check and we will when we pull the motor.


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B235E swap into an auto trans 9-3.
Motor will not turn over so we can attach flexplate to TC bolts.
Why?????????????


Any and all ideas are welcome. Thanks for the help guys!
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:40 AM   #2
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Converter slipped out and is now bound by the trans to engine bolts? Possibly internally damaging the pump or converter.

The cranks etc are all the same externally.
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:22 PM   #3
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I forgot to mention this in the original post, but the TC spins freely with the engine still attached to the trans.
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Yeah the torque converter was the first thing we checked. It spun freely with just my figure through the bottom inspection hole and the engine still wouldn't spin after we loosened up all the bell housing bolts. Are the rear main covers different between the engines? I am really kicking myself for not checking the motor spun after we swapped the flex plates.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:36 AM   #5
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Does anybody have a picture of a B205R with the auto trans flexplate still attached to the motor? That is the one thing I didn't take a picture of when doing the swap.
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