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Old 09-21-2009, 01:00 PM   #1
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koni adjustables (sport kit)

so after having my front set of koni adjustable shocks blow after ~8000 miles, i just chalked it up to a bad set.
I put the warranty replacements on and about 7000 miles another one, possibly both fronts, have blown.


has anyone had issues with these?

I'm royally ticked about this, and ready to go back to stock, as much as that set-up sucks.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:35 PM   #2
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I think I'm a little over 30,000 miles so far and they are still great, lots of track use too.

Try one more time with the warranty, then maybe talk straight to koni to see if they can maybe give you a new set since this one they are rebuilding are blowing so often...

I assume you have the correct springs too? That would make a longevity difference...
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I purchased the entire sport kit from GS. All installed professionally and given a break in period on full soft. I received what I believe to be brand new, not rebuilt replacements.

Champ, what settings do you typically run yours at?
daily driven?
track?
long distance trips?
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I have had my Konis in for about 5,000 miles (on full firm) and they are still performing like new. I have a friend who is on SC that has a og9-3 vert where his Konis failed on him once after less than 10k miles.

If the Konis truely don't work out for you, try out the Bilsteins.
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I purchased the entire sport kit from GS. All installed professionally and given a break in period on full soft. I received what I believe to be brand new, not rebuilt replacements.

Champ, what settings do you typically run yours at?
daily driven?
track?
long distance trips?
Mine have been fine for around 30,000 miles too, most of those miles were with the stock springs which seem to give the shocks/struts more of a workout.

No track days on that car, but it has been rallycrossed HARD on a frozen solid field.
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I purchased the entire sport kit from GS. All installed professionally and given a break in period on full soft. I received what I believe to be brand new, not rebuilt replacements.

Champ, what settings do you typically run yours at?
daily driven?
track?
long distance trips?
I have done long distance on both but it's typically full soft.
Track is always full firm.
Daily driving is probably 75% of the time full soft 25% full firm.
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Whats the koni warranty? Are you getting them replaced by genuinesaab or straight from koni?
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Something isn't right. Those are supposed to be "lifetime" shocks/struts.

Do you do any weird/excessive driving? Everything else okay with the front end?

I'm at like 62k on my set. I heard hissing and one went bad when I took things down to do a wheelbearing, but that's because the moron that put them in originally apparently beat on the top with something and damaged the crimped seal area. So I'm not counting that as a real failure.
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Whats the koni warranty? Are you getting them replaced by genuinesaab or straight from koni?
direct from koni- GS wouldn't have anything to do with me.

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Something isn't right. Those are supposed to be "lifetime" shocks/struts.

Do you do any weird/excessive driving? Everything else okay with the front end?

I'm at like 62k on my set. I heard hissing and one went bad when I took things down to do a wheelbearing, but that's because the moron that put them in originally apparently beat on the top with something and damaged the crimped seal area. So I'm not counting that as a real failure.

excessive driving? no. i put on alot of miles this past month, but that includes driving from chicago to colorado for SOC.

the car has yet to see the track, i mean i have put it through its paces for fun, but not yet tracked.

I'm going to give this warranty another try, specifically requesting new, not refurbished products. I'm not going to touch full firm on the street, just next year when i make it out to some autoX events.

thanks for the input, it's given me some hope for these.
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you're supposed to keep em full soft for the wear in period??? oops (how big a deal is this???)
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Old 09-22-2009, 04:58 AM   #11
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I am surprised they are blowing for the $$$ they cost.

How can they even give you refurbished units??!!!?? So they expect you to be happy with paying full price for a refurbished set and had to do the labor twice. At this point they should give you new ones and cover the labor OR money back imo.
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That is quite odd.

What is the exact nature of the failure?

Where did you put the white washer that is in the kit?


I have pinched tires flat on my pair including high speed turtles at the track..
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The white washer sits on the top side of the strut.

The problem is the seal keeps blowing out and filling the strut housing full of fluid..

Very strange for it to be happening.
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Who installed them?
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That is quite odd.

What is the exact nature of the failure?

Where did you put the white washer that is in the kit?


I have pinched tires flat on my pair including high speed turtles at the track..
Wait what? Someone told me these weren't required. Where do they go?
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That is quite odd.

What is the exact nature of the failure?

Where did you put the white washer that is in the kit?


I have pinched tires flat on my pair including high speed turtles at the track..
-exactly what SPG-GASM said.

The failure is exactly as Rob described... There is also a pronounced clicking noise when dampening quickly. When we removed the last defective set (with the same failure characteristics), both strut housings were filled with fluid and leaking.

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you're supposed to keep em full soft for the wear in period??? oops (how big a deal is this???)
anyone?
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anyone?
http://www.koni-na.com/pdf/tech.pdf

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Q: What is the best adjustment setting for my shocks?

A: There is no single best adjustment setting for your KONIs
because every driver and vehicle has different
preferences for comfort, performance, performance
modifications and roads to drive on. For most vehicles,
we suggest that new KONIs be installed in the full soft
position (the standard setting right out of the box) to take
advantage of the balance of ride comfort and handling
designed by the KONI ride development engineers. If the
car has performance upgrades (springs, wheel/tire
packages, etc.) or the driver wants the car a bit more
aggressive, most people find the optimum setting in the
1/2 to one full turn from full soft range. Over the extended
life of the damper or if the driver wants a specific firm
handling characteristic, the dampers can be adjusted up
higher. Very rarely will a KONI ever need to be adjusted to
the full firm setting.

I know this doesn't answer your question.
I ran mine on full soft for ~1500-2000 miles before adjusting from full soft.
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