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Old 08-03-2009, 12:12 PM   #1
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Ok so I have a forged intercooler on my 9.3 and its still getting heatsoaked pretty badly its 75 out today and after driving my car relatively hard the air temp through it was 68 degrees celcius, anyway what im wondering what can you make fit in there, or who has the biggest intercooler in there car I want something huge but dont know where to start
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look at JK hits 400 HP thread, IIRC he has some FMIC links there
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Old 08-03-2009, 03:46 PM   #3
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The forge is a pretty damn good unit as I have one and it works great. But then again I also run an IC sprayer and have no idea what mods you have?
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Ive got the ETS unit in my 9-3 (with stage 4 supporting HW and a tune) and the HIGHEST intake temp I've seen is 55 celcius on a 100+ degree day.

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get a large thick IC from ebay and make it fit


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Old 08-03-2009, 04:37 PM   #6
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i want to fit the biggest ic i can get i just dont kno what that is im looking for suggestions i have a 19t with a 2.3
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The one right above you (9k style) is the largest you can possibly fit in that car.
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:03 PM   #8
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what kit is it and what modifications do i need to make to make it work?
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its a universal IC. I can take measurements tonight or tomorrow. My AC needed an evaporator, so my AC wasn't working in the first place. So all I needed to do to fit the IC was relocate the horns (easy breezy) and unscrew the AC Drier (simple as algebra).

If you want to keep your AC, I believe you need a maximum height of 8.5".
If I want to get my AC back, I just need to get a shorter IC and putthe AC drier back, no biggy.
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The ETS unit is the largest "drop in" unit available. It will take some fooling with for sure but you won't have to remove the AC or horns if you end up going with it. Apparently it is supporting 400-500hp on a few cars. I don't want to say "stay in the box" but it is a fairly easy solution to the heatsoak problem.

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i would love to know the size did you just use there tubing too, also can the ac drier b moved
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just an fyi, you can get an IC that has the same dimensions as the ETS intercooler for a fraction of the price just by getting a universal one.
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its a universal IC. I can take measurements tonight or tomorrow. My AC needed an evaporator, so my AC wasn't working in the first place. So all I needed to do to fit the IC was relocate the horns (easy breezy) and unscrew the AC Drier (simple as algebra).

If you want to keep your AC, I believe you need a maximum height of 8.5".
If I want to get my AC back, I just need to get a shorter IC and putthe AC drier back, no biggy.
i'm guessing you got one, similar to this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CXRac...ht_5224wt_1217

and i don't mean that specific IC, but it has all of the various piping sets that he sells with the intercoolers

but he offers a bunch of different sets of piping sections to choose from

which set of pipes did you get for that? or more importantly if you could choose a different set of pipes which universal set would you choose?
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I got it from a guy on saabcentral.com so it was ready to fit in with all the tubing/piping.

Honestly, don't get the universal IC with the piping. The only piping I used to fit the IC was two straight pipes about 6 inches long, thats it! That will connect the IC to HOT/Viggen hoses.

I would only get the IC WITH the piping kit if you plan on making an intake pipe and delivery pipe out of it. Otherwise, its useless.
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I got it from a guy on saabcentral.com so it was ready to fit in with all the tubing/piping.

Honestly, don't get the universal IC with the piping. The only piping I used to fit the IC was two straight pipes about 6 inches long, thats it! That will connect the IC to HOT/Viggen hoses.

I would only get the IC WITH the piping kit if you plan on making an intake pipe and delivery pipe out of it. Otherwise, its useless.
well... i have a 900 so basically none of my existing piping would be usable for a crossflow IC, and considering the price if any of those universal kits would work and be able to let me route an intake too, that would be far more ideal than trying to find a HOT IC piping set... and probably less expensive
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also keep in mind, with the largest IC you can possibly fit in your car, will also come increased lag in the time its going to fully pressurize the immense volume you now have in your piping and IC.
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easiest way to overcome that is by going with a THINNER intercooler. past the first inch, i've read that each additional inch is 40-60% less effective at cooling air than the previous inch. going with a HUGE 2" thick intercooler would give you a huge amount of surface area, with a relatively small amount of volume to fill
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also keep in mind, with the largest IC you can possibly fit in your car, will also come increased lag in the time its going to fully pressurize the immense volume you now have in your piping and IC.

thats an excellent point my 19t seems to already have plenty of that lol
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not that i have a big turbo (stock tdo4) but i put a massive 31x12x3 inch fmic in my 9000 and experianced no more lag then before not that there is any lol....i would stuff the biggest one in there you can get
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and, fwiw, i went from a viggen IC to an 18x8x3.5" core intercooler, as well as full 2.5" piping, and did not see a noticeable difference in lag
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