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Old 07-25-2009, 09:05 AM   #1
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Tire rotation question.....

Sorry for the noob question.

I need to replace my front tires and want to move the set of yokahama avid w4s (225 45 r17) that are on rear of the car to the front. They're two years old or so. When I have spoken to the folks at tire rack they said it was not such great idea as the tires have settled into some sort of tread pattern. Also when I replaced my tires last year the tire guy said the same thing.

Is there any serious issues to be aware of really? Should I move the right rear to the right front or to the left front? What's everyone's thoughts.

Car details 2000 9 3 with a 2mm ARB and steering rack brace clamp if this has bearing on anything. also need to replace shocks all around which I will address in a different thread.

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Old 07-25-2009, 09:16 AM   #2
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Just move them and it kills me when some people say not to do this. Sure you might have an ill effect, but I doubt it. I can't tell you how many times I have done this on numerous cars.
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Thanks for the quick reply, any preference on the best way to move them to the front?
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I would leave them. Put the good new tires on the front. The majority of your braking and handling are placed on the front tires not the rear. If they were all the same age I would say rotate them every 5,000 to 7,500 miles depending on the tire type. Front to back keeping them on the same side throughout the life of the tires.
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As long as the tires are not directional, you can switch sides. My tires are directional and can only be rotated front to back on the same side. The whole purpose behind rotation is to even out the wear.
Like Rudedog posted the majority of the work is done by the fronts on your car. Depending how "bad" the backs are just put the newbies on the front.
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I thought that on a FWD car you were supposed to rotate rear-left to front-right, rear-right to front-left, and move both front tires straight back? As long as the tires aren't directional, as Bullseye pointed out.

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The yokahama's are directional and and have 1/4' of good tread. I just want to switch to having all 225/45R-17 Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position tires once I wear out the yokes. I would rotate the tires & rims on a regular basis if I lived in the suburbs. Being I live in NYC my front rims have the typical curb rash from parallel parking/ letting the GF use the car etc. My rear rims are in decent shape. I have the 9-3ss 15 spoke wheels btw and if you can find a used pair like I did get them, they do wonders for looks of the car. I go threw a set of front tires in 15k miles or 10 months from road trips and spending 3 months in FLA and flying around clover leafs.

I will choose option A and let you know how it goes

now to it's also time to find a low cost option for all new shocks out side of the koni sport kit... can someone give me some advice on that thread as well

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Since the tires are directional I will stick rotating the tires on the same side of the car. I have have been threw 2 sets of tires on the front already and just want wear out the yokes in 8 months or so.

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I say just put the old ones on the front and melt 'em!
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When I have spoken to the folks at tire rack they said it was not such great idea as the tires have settled into some sort of tread pattern.
This is true. Put new tires on front and never rotate. Then as the front wears down after a while just get 2 more new ones for the front. The rears last a while on these cars.
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Sorry to thread steal, but when you bring your car into townfair tire, apparently you have to ask for a rotation when getting a snow summer cross over. I found this out when i only got 10k out of my 75k prorated. They said they were only covering prorating for 30k since i treated them poorly apparently, meaning didnt have them rotated... I assumed they would put the tire in the correct space for proper wear, as the rotation and cross over is free... they are tire experts not me... After 30 mins of argueing and persuading a new customer to look elsewhere for tires, they gave me the benifit of the doubt. These guys are retards and not consumer friendly. I had a snow tire change over to summers in march. When i drove 300 miles there was a weird grinding sound, I though it was my brake shield (they had bent one really badly before) i brought it to a shop, and apparently the lug nuts were lose, like could be taken off by hand. Another problem with them is one of my tires 2 weeks ago had VISIBLE damage to the stem, they brought it in the back of the shop for 45 mins, apparently repaired a nail hole, and returned the car to me. I started yelling in the parking lot while the guy who took my car was with another customer. They are so unprofessional, I would avoid them in Marlbrough MA. Total garbage. Oh, and yelling helps. The only thing they actually do right is sell you tires... and push you to get alignments and balancing when they are unneeded. I looked at the specs before and after on my car, and they were MINIMAL changes for 99.99... total crap.

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Old 07-26-2009, 06:51 PM   #12
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some things you just need to do yourself, tire rotating being one of them.
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some things you just need to do yourself, tire rotating being one of them.
I hate it and just did mine, but I do agree.
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I rotate every other oil change. (You've already got half of the car in the air) When I put the snows on for the winter, I would mark which corner they come off and rotate when I put them back on in the spring.
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:13 AM   #15
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This is true. Put new tires on front and never rotate. Then as the front wears down after a while just get 2 more new ones for the front. The rears last a while on these cars.
Actually you are supposed to put new tires in the rear.
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Actually you are supposed to put new tires in the rear.
I know they say that but I think it's wrong for a FWD car.

Example. Winter.

I would rather have good tires on the front to pull out of spin or slide because it's something I can control with the gas pedal.

If you have shity tires on the front and good on the back, you could snow plow (under steer) in a corner and you can do nothing about it.
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I know they say that but I think it's wrong for a FWD car.

Example. Winter.

I would rather have good tires on the front to pull out of spin or slide because it's something I can control with the gas pedal.

If you have shity tires on the front and good on the back, you could snow plow (under steer) in a corner and you can do nothing about it.
Totally agree on that, just stating what almost every damn shop will tell if you bring two tires in.
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http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=137943

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...o/4243992.html

http://theautoprophet.blogspot.com/2...s-on-rear.html
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:54 PM   #19
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^ That is bs. They say in the video the car with the new tires in the back can make adjustments and slow down to correct the car. Ya well that’s nice and all but some times it can be a blink of any eye and you are off the road. I know because I ended up on the front lawn of a house one winter in my 900 that had worn front tires. Plus the guy in the video with the bad rear tires was over doing it. Why can't he slow down like the white car?
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oversteer and e break are wayyyy more fun, dont you guys agree? I feel WAY more in control when oversteering than understeering. Im making a poll: Would you rather lose control with : A) Understeer. B) Oversteer...
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