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Old 01-10-2004, 09:02 AM   #1
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Ordered some new toys for the Enduro. /Suspension Update.

In the suspension dept, being as I have a early 95 900se with the old style suspension, I ordered the,

Included are: 24mm Front Sway bar off a 9-3SE
PN: 49 05 824



Front Suspension upgrade kit (not needed on mid year 95-03 cars).
PN: 89 94 097



PowerFlex poly bushings for the inner and outer track controll arm, front tie bar, and 24mm sway bar bushings.
PN: PFF66-301, PFF66-302, PFF66-303, and PFF66-304-24.



385k Candlepower KC Daylighters.


And an EGT, and Air/fuel gauge.



Stay tuned, I'll post pics of stuff as it arrives.
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so, exhaust temp... why? Who really cares? explain...
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Old 01-10-2004, 12:41 PM   #3
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Its for tuning matters. It goes along with the AF ratio.
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Old 01-10-2004, 06:43 PM   #4
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Ahhh, I'm glad you asked, Jeff, some of the stone agers like to use water injection for cooling the cylinder temps. Next month I am picking up a propane injection kit. The EGT gauge will help me determine how much to "spray" If I have a little fuel left over, as the nature of Propane is more fuelish than O2ish, maybe some NO2 would be in order.

Ive mentioned it a few times on central, but nobody takes it seriosly. So without further adue, I am going to install it on my car, and pick up a mean ass ECU.




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Old 01-10-2004, 06:52 PM   #5
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Damn Tweek!!! You definately have to let us know how it turns out. I hope the propane doesn't cook your engine like NAWS does
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:P errrr..... wanna race?
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We use a propane gas to fuel cars 100% over here in the UK and europe.

The main downside is, its a very dry duel, no lube in it, so can cause valve seat recession.
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I'm only using its property as a compressed combustable gas. I read the propane comes out of the tank at -60 farenheit. I just want to achive the effect of these nice 0 degree days we are having now, only when its 90 out.

As long as you have the fuel supply with the NO2 it shouldn't be harmfull, besides, how much can a GM900 front end take anyways.
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As an addition to the kit, I think it needs sway bar bushing clamp PN 45 43 542 I just ordered a pair, since the kit is supposed to come with a 19 mm bar, and I checked a program that shows 3 clamps, realating to the 3 diff front bars.
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How much did the new front bar cost ya? Im looking to upgrade.
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The front bar lists for about $142. I think I payed $120.
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so, exhaust temp... why? Who really cares? explain...
EGT is a good way to measure how close you are to melting a cylinder or two..
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Whats the melting temp for a stock cylinder?
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Whats the melting temp for a stock cylinder?
With cast, you pretty much 1450 is the max you'd ever want to see at full tilt
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Whats the melting temp for a stock cylinder?
With cast, you pretty much 1450 is the max you'd ever want to see at full tilt
Actually the Saab engine can take quite a bit more than this. The info that I got from Dr. Boost, the guy who designed the Trionic system, was not to exceed 2000 F EGT out of the cylinders. My EGT sensor is after the turbo and on long full boost runs will max at 1500. This means that before the turbo EGT are around 1800, due to the temp drop across the turbine. During normal highway cruising my EGT gauge reads 1200-1300 F.
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As an amendment to the Propain kit, the gas holds an octane of 108, and being a gas, not a liquid, it mixes easier with the air, to fill up lean spots.
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Holy hell!

Imagine your first run on parabolic skis. This thing carves! I just think, left or right, and it goes that way.

I knew that adding a bar up front, larger than my upgraded rear, would lead to understeer again, But I can still kick the end out if I try. Mind you I am still using snow tires on all 4. So some warm weather tests with SO-3s are in order.

I related the feel to my buddy Rooster, that if I had champagne glasses stacked on the hood, the would not fall off. The front end stays flat as pancake, and thats with stock shocks and springs. It does feel like the rear wags a bit to much, but with some tighter konis out back, than in front. I think I can balance it back to oversteer. All I can say is, the car goes exactly where its pointed. No matter how much you ask of it, it will reply. 90* turns are done with no thought at all, at speed. If you are looking for results, I recomend this. Shocks and springs may emulate the effect, but this is the bare bones, foundation of it all.
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Im glad they turned out so well. I can't wait to get my suspension upgraded here soon.
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Old 02-17-2004, 06:35 PM   #19
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Update, suspension still doing very nicely.

I also made my downpayment on a never used, propane injection system for the saab. can you say 108 octane on demand



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