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booyakasha07 · 06-20-2009, 09:37 PM

Has anyone ever re-routed the rear windsheild washer to the IC and made a sprayer? Is this the same pump the front is connected to? Also, does anyone know if there would be a way to maybe re-route the headlamp washers to an IC sprayer? Any information on the pump would be great!

nowhereman · 06-20-2009, 10:33 PM

the rear sprayer is a different pump. not worth the hassel to re-route.

just buy a spare pump and sprayer from older Miatas (i think) and wire it up to a seperate switch. or hook up some Co2 from paintball and use that....

Baz · 06-21-2009, 05:32 AM

Just buy a bigger intercooler. May be pricy, but in the long run, its a better option

nowhereman · 06-21-2009, 05:39 AM

or do both... also a bigger IC isn't too pricey just go on ebay...

Drew in Houston · 06-21-2009, 06:22 AM

Or you could do a crude water injection system for about the same amount of money.

g96nt · 06-21-2009, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz

Just buy a bigger intercooler. May be pricy, but in the long run, its a better option

best advice!

lms · 06-21-2009, 06:58 AM

Doesn't the pump depend on what year the car is as my viggen has one pump which works in reverse when you want to spray the rear wind shield?
Like stated, get a bigger IC; don't waste your time on an IC sprayer unless you get a high pressure pump, even then you will see minimal gains. Don't waste your money on a co2 one as well, and if ya want WI, spend the money on a snow/aquamist, etc and have your ecu mapped to it.

codesplice · 06-21-2009, 07:26 AM

If you're really intent on doing this, here's how I did it once upon a time: http://griffingear.helixgfx.com/ggtip_icmist.htm

I saw intake temperatures that were maybe three degrees lower with spray than without. And that was only when drenching the IC pretty well before the run.

I pulled that homemade system out, bought a bigger IC, and haven't looked back. That's where your time and money will be best spent.

Also, Ims is correct. The rear sprayer uses the same pump as the front sprayers; it just spins in reverse to route the washer fluid through a different nozzle.

saabskijc · 06-25-2009, 08:51 PM

Any body experiance with nos intercooler spraying? I hear it does some good results

codesplice · 06-25-2009, 09:34 PM

I hear your money is still better-spent on a larger IC.

rafal · 06-26-2009, 02:38 AM

Jdinneen did it to his NG.

saabskijc · 06-26-2009, 06:23 AM

How did it work out?

jdinneen · 06-26-2009, 12:11 PM

it took me 2 seconds to move the otherwise useless headlight sprayers to the lip in front of the IC. I saw minor but positive results when using a method outlined in an autospeed article. spray before you do a pull as water is a better heat absorber than metal. no replacement for a good IC of course.

JZW · 06-26-2009, 12:18 PM

I tried this and even used methonal and tested it on the dyno with 0 results on the dyno, lost the same amount of hp per pull, about 7whp each run with or without water or methonal. I gave up on that idea and that is when I sprayed the w/m straight into my intake

That showed a 39wtrq gain with no sw changes

John

Palmer · 06-26-2009, 12:22 PM

I think it's pretty important to have the water going on the IC to be a mist, not just a dribbly stream.

Think of the way it dissapates heat...

lms · 06-27-2009, 05:36 AM

^^^ What he said^^^ You want the water to be a very fine mist (high pressure pump is needed) so by the time the water goes through the IC it is evaporating. If you soak it to much all you end up with is a warm IC with more water warm water all over it.

06-20-2009, 09:37 PM	#1
booyakasha07 Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury MA Posts: 640	IC sprayer Has anyone ever re-routed the rear windsheild washer to the IC and made a sprayer? Is this the same pump the front is connected to? Also, does anyone know if there would be a way to maybe re-route the headlamp washers to an IC sprayer? Any information on the pump would be great!

06-20-2009, 10:33 PM	#2
nowhereman Elder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 3,198	the rear sprayer is a different pump. not worth the hassel to re-route. just buy a spare pump and sprayer from older Miatas (i think) and wire it up to a seperate switch. or hook up some Co2 from paintball and use that.... __________________ 2008 9-3 SS: Stg 1 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , GS Strut Bar, GS 3 Point Chasis Brace, K&N Filter, Ebay Trunk Lip

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nowhereman Elder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 3,198	or do both... also a bigger IC isn't too pricey just go on ebay... __________________ 2008 9-3 SS: Stg 1 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , GS Strut Bar, GS 3 Point Chasis Brace, K&N Filter, Ebay Trunk Lip

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Drew in Houston Elder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: PA/MD Posts: 2,430	Or you could do a crude water injection system for about the same amount of money. __________________ Co-Founder: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. First T7 19T turbo setup. First T7 Deka 80lb. injector setup.

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codesplice Elder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 4,388	If you're really intent on doing this, here's how I did it once upon a time: http://griffingear.helixgfx.com/ggtip_icmist.htm I saw intake temperatures that were maybe three degrees lower with spray than without. And that was only when drenching the IC pretty well before the run. I pulled that homemade system out, bought a bigger IC, and haven't looked back. That's where your time and money will be best spent. Also, Ims is correct. The rear sprayer uses the same pump as the front sprayers; it just spins in reverse to route the washer fluid through a different nozzle. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 2001 9-3 - Nordic Stage 3 2007 9-5 2.3T Wagon To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-21-2009, 05:32 AM	#3
Baz SAAB Road Master Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 367	Just buy a bigger intercooler. May be pricy, but in the long run, its a better option

06-21-2009, 06:58 AM	#7
lms Live, eat, and sleep by TSL Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,337	Doesn't the pump depend on what year the car is as my viggen has one pump which works in reverse when you want to spray the rear wind shield? Like stated, get a bigger IC; don't waste your time on an IC sprayer unless you get a high pressure pump, even then you will see minimal gains. Don't waste your money on a co2 one as well, and if ya want WI, spend the money on a snow/aquamist, etc and have your ecu mapped to it.

06-25-2009, 08:51 PM	#9
saabskijc SAAB Road Master Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North smithfield , RI Posts: 373	Any body experiance with nos intercooler spraying? I hear it does some good results

06-25-2009, 09:34 PM	#10
codesplice Elder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 4,388	I hear your money is still better-spent on a larger IC. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 2001 9-3 - Nordic Stage 3 2007 9-5 2.3T Wagon To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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rafal Elder Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South Boston, MA Posts: 3,983	Jdinneen did it to his NG. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by rafal; 06-26-2009 at 09:11 AM.

06-26-2009, 06:23 AM	#12
saabskijc SAAB Road Master Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North smithfield , RI Posts: 373	How did it work out?

06-26-2009, 12:11 PM	#13
jdinneen Flirting With TSL Addiction Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 517	it took me 2 seconds to move the otherwise useless headlight sprayers to the lip in front of the IC. I saw minor but positive results when using a method outlined in an autospeed article. spray before you do a pull as water is a better heat absorber than metal. no replacement for a good IC of course.

06-26-2009, 12:18 PM	#14
JZW Elder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 3,153	I tried this and even used methonal and tested it on the dyno with 0 results on the dyno, lost the same amount of hp per pull, about 7whp each run with or without water or methonal. I gave up on that idea and that is when I sprayed the w/m straight into my intake That showed a 39wtrq gain with no sw changes John __________________ b234r ng900, E-85 Holset Super [email protected] mph a mile high 645whp/650wtrq Sae Denver To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-26-2009, 12:22 PM	#15
Palmer Deez Nutz Site ModeratorElder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cheese Country Posts: 15,679	I think it's pretty important to have the water going on the IC to be a mist, not just a dribbly stream. Think of the way it dissapates heat... __________________ S55/LC100/KL

06-27-2009, 05:36 AM	#16
lms Live, eat, and sleep by TSL Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,337	^^^ What he said^^^ You want the water to be a very fine mist (high pressure pump is needed) so by the time the water goes through the IC it is evaporating. If you soak it to much all you end up with is a warm IC with more water warm water all over it.

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