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Old 05-30-2009, 08:21 AM   #1
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Clutch stuff.

Whelp, it appears I'm kinda taking on a new project. Looking at clutch options.

Right now the car has somewhere around 140k on it. It has a blown trans, so it's coming out anyway and I'd rather just have to rip it all apart once.

The car is a '95 900SET and will have an N/A trans.

It's mostly going to be my race beater, and will hopefully be tuned at some point.

So, options. Viggen pressure plates are supposed to be stronger/hold more power than the stock one, correct? If I go Vig PP, what should I use for a disk? Will a stock disk + Vig PP hold up to, say, stage 3 power? How much should I expect to pay for one, and how bad of an idea is a used one?
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:49 AM   #2
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the big thing with viggen pressure plate and still using the clutch cable is the amount of force required. Alot of people here dont like that and will also do the hyrdo conversion also which will run you another 400ish in parts alone. Can anyone here confirm if just a regular ng900 turbo clutch will hold stg 3?
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:41 AM   #3
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hydro conversion FTW.....

I HATE CABLE CLUTCHES!.
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Hydro conversion also = $$$

The clutch in that car takes a LOT more force than mine. I got used to it in about a day lol.
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:27 PM   #5
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if you go to GS and order the vig clutch kit (viggen PP and disk)it will hold stg 3 power perfectly. that's what i've used in my car for the longest time, it was also not bad with the cable clutch.

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Old 05-31-2009, 02:14 AM   #6
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Alright cool.

I think I'm just gonna throw the trans in for now. By the time I have $$$ to do what I want to do in there... I dunno, but it'll take a long time
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:15 AM   #7
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We run a stg3 disk, vig pp and alu flywheel in the drag car. If you keep the torque spike reasonable in the tuning it will be fine and the gearbox will be your friend.
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Old 06-01-2009, 04:29 PM   #8
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That NA box is going to make the car a beast!
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Old 06-01-2009, 04:36 PM   #9
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parts for the hydro conversion cost me $250; most of that was the cost of a new slave cylinder.
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do the hydro clutch conversion while your at it.
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My car is hydro already so I just took out the throwout bearing from my N/A tranny and threw in the slave cylinder and hooked back all the lines.
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Old 06-02-2009, 02:45 AM   #12
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Is there any benefit to the hydro conversion other than a lighter pedal?
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Is there any benefit to the hydro conversion other than a lighter pedal?
Its reliable.

My car has a viggen pp/stage 3 clutch setup. I drove it for a little over a year with the cable setup....absolutely awful. Hydraulic is without question the way to go.
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That NA box is going to make the car a beast!
N/A NG900 gearing is no different than 99+ 9-3 gearing, every ratio is the same except third [1.12 vs 1.18]. NG Turbos had a taller final drive, but 9-3s have 4.05 just like the N/A NG's.

While its better than the NG turbo gearboxes, it's not as dramatic a difference as one would think. I really wish I had a F25 option for a slightly taller 1st and close 1, 2, 3 (without going to the quaife 6-speed, which is spectacularly awesome and spectacularly spendy), that and a cheaper LSD option and I'd be a happy man....

FWIW, the stock clutch/PP will hold stg3 power, but probably not for very long. Viggen clutch/PP is the best cheap option for stg 3 2.0 cars IMO.
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