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Old 03-31-2005, 10:54 PM   #1
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Performance report Maptun stage 3

Yesterday I worked really late. Going home, I put som lead in my right shoe and tested some high speed performance.
I had to let off the pedal when reaching 150mph due to traffic, but even at that speed the turbo put out a healthy 18.5 psi and the car was still accelerating real good! Man, this car scares me
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:20 AM   #2
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Speed trap

What's the speed limit in Sweden? What mods have you put in?
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:40 AM   #3
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Re: Speed trap

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What's the speed limit in Sweden? What mods have you put in?
Hahaha... speedlimit is 68,3mph.....
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:45 AM   #4
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Nothing "special":
9-3 SE 2.0 lpt 1999
Maptun Stage 3
JT 3" with sports cat
Viggen IC

And yes, on the highway it´s 110km/h or 68mph
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:53 AM   #5
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150 mph? thats insane....
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:27 AM   #6
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hahah bollman welcome to the 150 club! once you do it a few times.. or 60 its not that scary anymore. just need to understand if you hit something your fucked so there is no room for mistake.
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Old 04-01-2005, 03:24 PM   #7
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Well, the rev limiter is at 170-175mph and I _will_ reach that speed this summer...
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Well, the rev limiter is at 170-175mph and I _will_ reach that speed this summer...
Inte med vanligt steg 3...

Not with a regular stage III tuning... Mine did 158,5mph (GPS) with some special mods in addition to stage III... If you hit 175 with stage III?? I'll eat my shorts....
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the stock cams are falling off power wise after 5500 RPM's, so I would probably have to agree with mike. after your are past 150, your RPM's are past peak power output and the wind resistance is only going up exponentially. maybe 160, but I just don't see it going any faster with stock gearing or cams.
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Well, we´ll see about that
I did 155 with BSR stage 1, so 165 or even 170 should be possible with stage 3, and if needed, there is one hell of a downhill going past Lund (it drops 150ft over something like 3000 ft distance).
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Well, we´ll see about that
I did 155 with BSR stage 1, so 165 or even 170 should be possible with stage 3, and if needed, there is one hell of a downhill going past Lund (it drops 150ft over something like 3000 ft distance).
Hahaha
oh thats just cheating

you should definitely get some video of that or at least a picture .

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Old 04-02-2005, 12:29 AM   #12
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my stage 3 can't maintain anything near 18.5 psi at high speeds.. or low for that matter... it can spike, but then it lets off.. i was told the TD04 can't maintain high boost very well
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my stage 3 can't maintain anything near 18.5 psi at high speeds.. or low for that matter... it can spike, but then it lets off.. i was told the TD04 can't maintain high boost very well
Here are few plots from two different occasios with the TD04-15T #5
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yeah bollman good luck on that one, I took the Vig stage 3 to 155 and it did not seem to continue moving any faster... maybe I was and the spedo was maxed out or maybe it wont do more than that... anyway I cant wait to see this / hear about it.
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my stage 3 can't maintain anything near 18.5 psi at high speeds.. or low for that matter... it can spike, but then it lets off.. i was told the TD04 can't maintain high boost very well
who ever told you this is full of shit the TDO4HL 15T can boost and HOLD 22+ PSI with ease.
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Old 04-02-2005, 05:52 AM   #16
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I´ll make a boost diagram one of these days, but I boost a lot more than that. I do 1.2-1.4 bar all the time.

This is with BSR stage 1.
150kPa=21.75psi
200kPa=29psi
250kPa=36.25psi
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Here is one short plot from the road, read from cars original MAP sensor - ambient pressure. The results posted above where from the dyno room


On a T7 car one should look for airmass values istaead of plain boost, since boost will vary from day to day depending on coditions.
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Hitting 150 should not be a problem with a viggen, even stock has limiter set at 155. The only guestion that should be asked, where do you find a long enough strait away to get the std viggen to that speed.
With a modified viggen no problem to reach that speed.
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Old 04-03-2005, 07:03 AM   #19
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I'm just saying 175 isn't possible with a stage III from bsr.

I'm hoping to hit 177-180 with my car after my mods are done with 400+bhp and changed gear ratios. If my car is able to hit the rev limiter on fifth gear (7300rpm) that would mean I hit 198mph. I'm just worried about the handling of my og9-3 at those speeds and where to test it..
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Firstly, I have MapTun, not BSR!
Second, the difference between 170 and 180 is as much as 145 and 170 when it comes to wind resistance. So, for every 5mph top speed you want, you need a lot more power.
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