alright ill put this step by step so its easier for u guys to follow. Don't flame, I don't have enough money right now for anything from GS.
Here is my $50 muffler from eBay.
Lined it up with the existing muffler. seemed fine.
Then you can see how the oval canister of the muffler of the original is shifted to the right and further towards the front of the car. Saab did the because there was that part of the body that's sticking out by the back.
This part of the body will limit how high I will have my muffler. See how low the tips are welded to the oval canister? Yeah, therefore, my dual tips will be lower than the original tip(not what I wanted). I wanted the tips to be snugged and fit perfectly. How should i go on fixing this problem? Any ideas? thanks
well the axleback part of the eBay muffler fits perfectly with all the turns. so of I flip the muffler over, the axleback piping wont fit because of the wheel, suspension
Whats the inlet size on that muffler anyways? That pipe looks TINY.
But yeah, I would try flipping it and rewelding the pipe. If you don't have a welder, a local metal shop should be able to do it on the super-cheap in about 5 minutes.
i think that's gonna look sweet when it's done. i'm no exhaust scientist, but i've tinkered with ebay mufflers in the past, and no problems here. if the price is right....
advice? sorry, i just took it to a muffler shop, cut weld, done. 30 mins in and out. barely had time to read the 80 year old greasy magazines in the lobby. I did the same thing on another car, but this time it was a full 3inch turbo back. It's not the prettiest thing, and the bends aren't extra smooth, but hell, it gets the job done. when i've got more $$ to throw around i'll get around to the fancy-shmancy stuff. till then, there's better areas to throw money at.... (i.e. forged pistons, p/p, headwork, 3angle valve job, t5cams, adj sprockets, etc.)
My advice, is next time do some measuring, and line stuff up before you buy.
No matter what, that setup is going to hang down pretty low below the bumper. I'd personally re-sell it then buy something closer to the correct dimensions and think about installing it where the stock muffler sits. If not, bring it to an exhaust place and make them deal with it
to be honest, no, looking at my exhaust, i had the flowmaster placed where the stock location was and a pipe was routed to the exhaust port. But then again im willing to bet our interests were different. My pipe and muffler were all painted flat black to keep a very sleeper/stock look.
It seems like you want to have the chrome tip and muffler look. who here has pulled that off, they'd probably be best to help if that is your intention.
Just go to summit racing and buy a magnaflow muffler and find a tip you like. Stay away from all that ebay crap. Sure some of it is good, but there are tried true mufflers that a lot of people have installed on saabs.
Its just going to be tough to find a decent sized oval case muffler to sit right behind the cutout in the bumper. The stock muffler is offset and has the curved tailpipe for a reason...and that's because of that unibody structural bump.
Just do some measuring and figure it out for yourself!
Thanks for the indfo guys, but which will make my car louder? old muffler(oval section) and New muffler? OR replace old muffler with piping and install new muffler? Basically, does the old muffler make the car louder or quieter??
Ok the OEM muffler when new was chosen to keep the car quiet. So the old one is worn out so its gonna be loud. Just put in the new muffler modified as needed since you bought it. The tip will have no effect on the sound.
alright. so if i want a nice somewhat loud tone to my 99 SE, what is the part that really matters? What part, if replaced with a bigger section, will make a nice loud tone to my car? thanks
alright thanks man. and do you know the size of the ehaust side of the t25 from a 99SE? would like to look for a reducer to weld a 3" bend for it. thanks
Okay, so here is what you do: Get rid of the muffler at the end, and buy whatever 'tip' you want, not muffler, tip. Heck since you have that ebay muffler, cut that off and use it. Look under car at the mid muffler, pretty sure the ends are off-set. Go to summit and purchase a magnaflow, 14 inch casing which looks like your stock muffler, but smaller. Bring to a shop, have them cut the mid muffler out and replace with the new magnaflow. Have them cut the rear muffler and throw it away, and have them weld the tip you also bought from summit as they have tons to choose from, or the one from ebay. You will now have a very good sounding exhaust that will not be too loud, but sounds great when you get on it.
DONE!
alright thanks. that helps a lot. would replacing the mid muffler with a straight pipe on top of replacing the rear muffler be obnoxiously loud? would it fail emissions? thanks
added. what size is the oem piping so i know what size to buy to replace the mid muffler
Mufflers do not change emissions, they reduce the noise form your exhaust.
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