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Old 09-15-2008, 04:03 PM   #1
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Question green giant injectors

Hey guys.... for those that have these in, how did you mount them? The clips from the stock injectors have nowhere to clip and I don't feel 100% that these are in secure to the fuel rail. I can see where I'm gonna need washers so that doesn't seem like much of an issue but I was wondering how you guys all got them in and secured. also, how did you all end up mounting the wire harness now that the fuel rail sits an inch higher? HELP! pics would be great.
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I put mine in with the stock clips. There was a slot in mine for the clips, not sure why yours don't. Also, did not sit any lower (well maybe a very small amount) and wiring connectors went right on. Is there possibly different green giants out there?
This was on a 99 9-3 Trionic 5.
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mine went in just as a12 described..
the fuel rail sits out further and is almost loose but they went on with stock clips
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What car? They are direct fit to the T5 cars but require spacers for the T7 stuff. Clips always work. (Excluding 99 t7s that had odd injectors.)
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2.0 GOOSE 500whp + 8500rpm = 11.06 @125 E85
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:10 PM   #5
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i dont remember using spacers on mine??
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What car? They are direct fit to the T5 cars but require spacers for the T7 stuff. Clips always work. (Excluding 99 t7s that had odd injectors.)
right im going to thread jack
my 1999 viggen has the 2 piece inlet manifold, can i get injectors to fit this or do i need to change to the later one piece manifold? i hear different things every time.

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The T7 injectors are much shorter than the standard length aftermarket. If you do not use spacers they will be too deep into the manifold.



For the 99 you need the new intake. They used to be cheap like $50 but recently the price has gone up and the castings are much poorer.
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shouldn't be too much over in the uk theres a million 9-5's being crushed due to blown engines so should be able to find one. i take it the fuel rail and everything else fits the same to the new manifold no different bolt spacing or anything?
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I did the same upgrade on my 99 9-5 and had to change to the new manifold and 2001+ fuel rail with washers also to fit the green giants. My 9-5 had a manifold bolt on the passenger side that was really hard to get to. I'm not sure the viggen has the same issue. I hope not for your sake.
Good luck with that, it's well worth it from that point on sky's the limit on the injectors, from what I've heard it's much harder to have upgraded airflush injectors and available software.
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Greg.. One correction. needs to be a 2000 manifold. The 01- uses a different map sensor.
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i dont follow how they would sit too far into the manifold..?
the bottom halves are almost identical.. then the top is longer on the 'green giant' causing my fuel rail bolts to be loose..
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:57 PM   #12
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hmmm....i experienced the same thing... before we decided to just take everything apart and put in new pistons and do headwork and junk and stuff....i suspect it will be the same situation once we start putting it all back together again.... i (now) have the spacers from GS, but i'm curious....what did you do to fix your situation?
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Greg.. One correction. needs to be a 2000 manifold. The 01- uses a different map sensor.
I just made an adaptor to mount the old MAP sensor in the newer manifold. I used a peice of 3/16 aluminum cut and drilled to sit on the manifold like the new type sensor and then drilled a hole in the plate and threaded the old sensor into the plate..
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Greg.. One correction. needs to be a 2000 manifold. The 01- uses a different map sensor.
getting a bit specific but bet theres a few about. do i need the fuel rail too? as disconecting it from the lines ive always found as nightmare and dont bother these days, just swing the lot out of the way when im working.
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bump...
is it a certain the injector rail needs changing too?
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yep need the new rail too. Mounts differently.
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ahh damn it! at least i have the single cat and lambda so can run without a cat as i am, makes up for changing all the manifold i hope!
so how do i get the fuel lines released from the end of the fuel rail as im sure theres a special tool for it and ive never figured out how to get it off without it?
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ok sussed the fuel line easy when you know how!
as for the manifold there doesnt seem to be a cross over manifold in the uk so i have to use the later map sensor and maybe the later delivery pipe with the later sensor too. should only require a little fiddling with the wiring connectors though.
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later sensors

When you get the wireing figured out on how to adapt the later sensors and please post the info.
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Article : Intake manifold
PartNo : 9192592
Usage : 2000, B235E, B235R, NLS-USE 30584298
Order Quantity : 1
MSRP : $70.00

Just get a new one from Saab. We usually get a new one they used to be under $50. The fuel rail is just a later one you can get those used for cheap. Much easier and cheaper than new map sensor and all the wiring connectors etc.
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