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Performance Modifications for the NG900 / Old 9-3 This forum contains PERFORMANCE related Q&A's for the NG900 and 9-3. This may also include suspension.

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Old 02-19-2005, 02:43 PM   #21
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I always found it ridiculous that sports cars could even be purchased with an auto tranny, not to mention that "muscle" cars are almost exclusivelly automatic - when was the last time you saw a camaro with a stick that didn't have to be special ordered?

I've driven the tip-tronic type cars and as far as I'm concerned it's just for people who are too lazy or uncoordinated to use a clutch.

Yes, I know that some auto tranny's are as fast as a manual - that's not the point - Auto tranny's are for point-and-shoot cruising and manuals are for DRIVING.

Besides, if you can't hear the rumble of a sporty exhaust as you downshift you're missing part of the experience.
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you know i think your problem here zach is that youve never experienced the new saab auto trannys, i must say that the auto in my parents '01 aero is EXCELLENT, one of the best saab trannys that ive ever experienced. if you get on that thing at any speed, it immediately kicks down to a lower gear and is ready to go, then it shifts hard into the next gear WITHOUT LOSING ANY BOOST, wich is a huge huge advantage in a turbo car. and as for the gear ratios, in top gear, that car revs LOWER than a comparable 5 speed car. bottom line, the autos are absolutely a different animal in from the ng900 up. the 9k autos were terrible, and the c900 autos were even worse, but neither of them have any impact on how the newer trannys perform.

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oh but for the record, if i were to buy a newer saab with the intent to mod it, it would be a standard but thats just personal preference.

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you know i think your problem here zach is that youve never experienced the new saab auto trannys, i must say that the auto in my parents '01 aero is EXCELLENT, one of the best saab trannys that ive ever experienced. if you get on that thing at any speed, it immediately kicks down to a lower gear and is ready to go, then it shifts hard into the next gear WITHOUT LOSING ANY BOOST, wich is a huge huge advantage in a turbo car. and as for the gear ratios, in top gear, that car revs LOWER than a comparable 5 speed car. bottom line, the autos are absolutely a different animal in from the ng900 up. the 9k autos were terrible, and the c900 autos were even worse, but neither of them have any impact on how the newer trannys perform.

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9-5 tranny's can be iffy auto-wise.... but yeah, I see what you're saying.
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you know i think your problem here zach is that youve never experienced the new saab auto trannys, i must say that the auto in my parents '01 aero is EXCELLENT, one of the best saab trannys that ive ever experienced. if you get on that thing at any speed, it immediately kicks down to a lower gear and is ready to go, then it shifts hard into the next gear WITHOUT LOSING ANY BOOST, wich is a huge huge advantage in a turbo car. and as for the gear ratios, in top gear, that car revs LOWER than a comparable 5 speed car. bottom line, the autos are absolutely a different animal in from the ng900 up. the 9k autos were terrible, and the c900 autos were even worse, but neither of them have any impact on how the newer trannys perform.

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9-5 tranny's can be iffy auto-wise.... but yeah, I see what you're saying.
huh?

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9-5 tranny's can be iffy auto-wise.... but yeah, I see what you're saying.
huh?

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Automatic 9-5 tranny's can be iffy... they aren't necessarily the most reliable automatic tranny's out there. But I will always stick to manual tranny's no matter what... I dont care if autos are better for drag times or citys..... I think my leg can handle the clutch in heavy traffic.... It's not that much work. lol .... everyone has their own opinion. I just don't feel like I am in that much control driving an automatic. It's all a matter of choice I suppose.
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Old 02-20-2005, 04:51 AM   #27
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I've driven the tip-tronic type cars and as far as I'm concerned it's just for people who are too lazy or uncoordinated to use a clutch.
that;s ignorant as hell!!! way to go!
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I don't know about that... IMO, most people who buy autos simply can't drive stick. Personally I have no problem driving a good automatic transmission but I will always have a strong preference to the manual transmission. I just like doing things myself and not having some hydraulic valve body or a computer control when I shift.

As long as you know how to use it, you will ALWAYS have more control over a 5 speed car Vs an auto. Yes, even those fancy paddle shifted ones. It’s the clutch that really gives the extra control.
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Old 02-20-2005, 05:39 AM   #29
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that;s fine, I get it. You like stick better., that is not my point anymore...

it is still ignorant to lay a blanket statement over a large group of people and lable them as lazy and uncoordinated. like how about if I said all guys with reddish hair are.... (insert something offensive)



see what I mean?

I can say I belive in this and that, or I like this and that, without being negative and insulting to the opposing view.
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Actually, abdukted, I wasn't intending to label anyone who drives an auto as anything - that comment was more aimed at the tiptronic drivers who think they have a "stick" - don't take it so personally.
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that;s fine, I get it. You like stick better., that is not my point anymore...

it is still ignorant to lay a blanket statement over a large group of people and lable them as lazy and uncoordinated. like how about if I said all guys with reddish hair are.... (insert something offensive)



see what I mean?

I can say I belive in this and that, or I like this and that, without being negative and insulting to the opposing view.
you can't drive stick, can you? :P
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Old 02-20-2005, 05:19 PM   #32
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So much for showin off my new exhaust here eh??
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i would like to see it mang
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Old 02-20-2005, 07:18 PM   #34
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Yea i just read this thread (which was getting WAY of topic ) looking or pics!!!

Can't wait to see!!


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Old 02-21-2005, 06:10 AM   #35
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Thanks Blaque... My pics are coming as soon as i get done with my organic lab today.
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Old 02-21-2005, 02:23 PM   #36
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Pics are here!
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Pics are here!
where?
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Old 02-21-2005, 05:59 PM   #38
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I edited them into my original post... My new post was to move to the top since my pics were here.
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:52 AM   #39
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Good looking stuff stalker...
My MP DP should be on soon. I have the abbott catless 2.5" Dp and the MP 3" DP in my garage right now and am amazed at the difference in size the 1/2" makes.

intersing where the O2 sensors are located on you new DP. Were they in the same spot on you stock one? My front O2 sensor is right off the turbo on top of the DP and the second right after the cat. Maybe that was the mid year production change?

Anyway nice stuff.
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Old 02-25-2005, 08:12 PM   #40
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The first o2 sensor is right before my flex and cat, then the second is right after the cat. Err my stock dp(and rest of exhaust) is already in the basement behind a bunch of stuff...
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