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Old 08-24-2008, 11:22 AM   #1
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Race coilover kit from GS

Does anyone have this on their car? I was gonna wait till xmas, but it seems I might have just gotten the OK from wifey to get them. It seems the used set of swedish dynamics springs I got a year ago is starting to show some MAJOR sag and now i'm rubbing all over the place.

Also, the site says that it requires some 'minor' modification for fitment. what does that mean? and then there's spring rates.... anyone have any idea what to order for a street driven, but wants to be track-ready car?
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Old 08-25-2008, 06:55 AM   #2
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i don't think the coil-overs would be what you want... PAVIGGEN has them on his car and he says the ride on the highway is rough as hell...
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Old 08-25-2008, 06:58 AM   #3
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Thats why they are not street springs

PA has softer springs than I run on the red car too.

Remember a race car makes a poor street car, a good streetcar is a bad race car.
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:22 AM   #4
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...anyone have any idea what to order for a street driven, but wants to be track-ready car?
Koni Kit for 9-3
Vogtland/Koni for NG900

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Old 08-25-2008, 07:37 AM   #5
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I want to get a pair for my 9-3, since I autocross and do the occasional trackday, and I would love a better spring setup over the standard Koni Sports. But I do drive my car pretty regularly in the summer time on crappy VT roads so I've held off for the time being.

As for minor modification, I believe you need to remove the lower spring perch on the factory strut housing.

I suppose if you didn't want to run a really high spring rate, you could try the coilover with the standard Koni springs, so that way you get the benefit of corner weighting the front and adjustable ride height. I've considered this possibility too. I would talk to Nick T first.
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http://www.saabperformanceparts.com/cat28_1.htm

who makes these? and is anyone using them?
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I think those are Kilen springs. Dunno if anyone is using them though.
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i don't think the coil-overs would be what you want... PAVIGGEN has them on his car and he says the ride on the highway is rough as hell...
The ride is rough. With that said I would never go back. The performance gains are well worth the decreased ride quality to me, but this kit definitely isn't for most people. After 6 months of having them installed they feel soft to me now
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Old 08-28-2008, 01:30 PM   #9
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who makes these? and is anyone using them?
I've got them. they suck. that's why I started this post to begin with...but I can deal with them. the real problem i was having was that the rears were starting to sag and I'd rub on accleration or with even just a little weight in the back. I'm sure my wheels and tires play a part in it, but I've never had rubbing issues with them before. I had my hopes up really high, but I guess I mis-read the description on the site and thought that these were somehow for the rear. What really got me was the ability for height adjustment as I wanted to be able to raise the car if I needed to haul some extra people or a Sam's Club trunk full of goodies. I found a good idea from Ragtopcav on the other site and that is to use spring assisters...i've sent an email to grayston engineering in the UK, but have not recieved one back. Anyone know of a US dealer/brand that sells something similar? I don't want the rubber things to go between the coils, I want the progressive springs that go inside the rear spring coils. any help would be great...thanks!

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The ride is rough. With that said I would never go back. The performance gains are well worth the decreased ride quality to me, but this kit definitely isn't for most people. After 6 months of having them installed they feel soft to me now
I guess there might still be hope for me getting these, as it seems i'm one of the rare folks that likes driving my konis on full firm.

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I guess there might still be hope for me getting these, as it seems i'm one of the rare folks that likes driving my konis on full firm.
350in/lbs springs are a good deal stiffer than konis on full firm. I don't want to detract you from purchasing them, but when Nick's site says race use only he means it. Although this car is my daily driver, my job allows me to take advantage of public transportation. So, whenever I'm in the viggen its either for fun or a grocery/home depot run. (Or driving to Springfield)
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I ran the Ground Control/Eibach coilover set up with 450s in the front and 350s in the rear on my old '90 GTI and I personally loved it. Sure it was a little wash-boardy on rougher roads, but holding over 1.1 G in a turn with street tires sure made up for it
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Yeah and its not a fixed item. My coilovers are custom the the car. So you really cannot compare a to b.

Nice change to the car though for sure. PA too bad it is such a pain to get to the springs.. We could try a little softer on yours. Call me sometime.

I thought my Vig was hard until I took a long ride on the Ducati Superbike. It sags maybe 10mm with me on it.
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The ride is rough. With that said I would never go back. The performance gains are well worth the decreased ride quality to me, but this kit definitely isn't for most people. After 6 months of having them installed they feel soft to me now
What springs are you running in the rear?
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What springs are you running in the rear?
good question. it seems we don't have much choice on set ups for the back side. Anyone know which brand offers the stiffest spring rate for the rears? I still think the rear spring assisters are a good option, anyone got these?
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The rears I run at the drag strip are a little on the stiff side. You can set on the bumper and it barely sags.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:22 AM   #16
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i'd like a pair of those please! or at least something stiffer than what garbage I've already got. I put a backpack and two textbooks in my trunk and it's sag-city!
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I'm still waiting for TEIN to make their Euro Damper Coilovers for saabs.
That would be Delicious.
http://www.tein.com/products/euro.html
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TEIN makes some cool things I just wish they would make stuff for saabs.
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I'm still waiting for TEIN to make their Euro Damper Coilovers for saabs.
That would be Delicious.
http://www.tein.com/products/euro.html
Probably never gonna happen for the ng900/og9-3 though
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