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Old 05-31-2008, 09:56 AM   #1
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Stage 4 SQR + Delivery pipe

I'm going to get a tune pretty soon... I have all the hardware I need to tune for stage 4. I'm also looking to pick up a delivery pipe from GS. Would I see any decent gains with adding the delivery pipe? GS recommends using this when over 300hp. What do you guys think? worth purchasing?
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Old 05-31-2008, 10:09 AM   #2
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Not the delivery pipe. If you dont already get a stainless intake pipe, and a FMIC

What mods do you / will you have?
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Old 05-31-2008, 10:22 AM   #3
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They look nice, but don't really do much.

I built my own, with the 3" elbow and the boost hit is smoother, but it does not feel any more powerful. I had the tubing already, and just had to buy the couplers and clamps.

Here is a link to the one I made:
https://saablink.net/forum/showthread...ht=intercooler

I have yet to dyno, but the butt dyno feels nothing.
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Not the delivery pipe. If you dont already get a stainless intake pipe, and a FMIC

What mods do you / will you have?
Agreed. The stainless intake pipe that is listed as a T-5 turbo conversion pipe for $160.00 really helped.
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Agreed. The stainless intake pipe that is listed as a T-5 turbo conversion pipe for $160.00 really helped.
Isnt that only if you upgrade to TD04?
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I'm going to get a tune pretty soon... I have all the hardware I need to tune for stage 4. I'm also looking to pick up a delivery pipe from GS. Would I see any decent gains with adding the delivery pipe? GS recommends using this when over 300hp. What do you guys think? worth purchasing?
I guess you missed the big test Vigge did on this? Do a search, every aspect was discussed! Basically it causes the power or torque to hit a little later and robs a little torque and really does not give much of a gain on the top end.

If you have issues with the turbo hitting too hard, it can be a good way to make the power more usable by having it hit a little more gradual, but it does not really offer any gains at the 350hp range.

Nick tested ss pipe on his viggen and noted it heat soaked much faster than the plastic stock delivery pipe. So for him it was a loss in hp....

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I still have the stock aluminum ic pipe on my 96 900 which is certainly making 300+hp.

Spend your $ on an intercooler before that pipe.
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Agreed with everyone above - I have sqr stage 4 and heat soak is a nightmare - my next investment is definitely an intercooler. Great fun on cool nights though... you will love it.
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I still have the stock aluminum ic pipe on my 96 900 which is certainly making 300+hp.

Spend your $ on an intercooler before that pipe.
I have my std alu pipe intact and the car is proven to make 500+hp with it.
Tried a 2.5" aftermarket model, but found only negative gains with it and went be to the std pipe including the last cast bend.
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If anything, you can take off the last cast bend and if you look at the where the final coupler connects to it, there is a large casting wall that doesn't line up. Take a dremmel to smooth out that transition. It helped a minor amount but it was free. Not sure if anyone ever proved it actually did anything though. I will try to grab a picture.
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I have my std alu pipe intact and the car is proven to make 500+hp with it.
Tried a 2.5" aftermarket model, but found only negative gains with it and went be to the std pipe including the last cast bend.
This is nuts.... After all my work to make my entire pressure side 2.5", I do have some need for lower spool and I am half tempted to put the stock pipe back on the car. I have wondered if it will actually help lower spool, but also make the car lose traction more easily and that was one thing I liked about adding the 2.5" hot side, it seemed to smooth the torque hit out some...

Lower spool would be good, but harder hitting torque would be bad... I might just have to give it a try and see how the car likes it...

Dang you Vigge, that just can't be true... How can a puny little bent up pipe with cast flat elbow flow better than a nice low angle bent 2.5" pipe with a nice 2.5" elbow??? Especially with over double the HP???

I would guess its the velocity of the smaller pipe and the fact that they probably tested and re-tested the design of the pipe and got the design with optimal flow. The pre-formed pipe with no junctions surely helps, but its hard to imagine it flows 300hp more no problem... This boggles me mind

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I have my std alu pipe intact and the car is proven to make 500+hp with it.
Tried a 2.5" aftermarket model, but found only negative gains with it and went be to the std pipe including the last cast bend.
lol! awesome!
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