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Old 05-29-2008, 07:31 PM   #1
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T5 Suite'd the 9-3!

All I can say from my short test drive in the rain tonight...this is neat!

I just did a light stage 2 tune, as I have yet to install the 3" downpipe on the car, and it still has the "there and back again" intercooler. But damn, its pretty fun to have full boost on that car.

Now I know what people get that steering rack brace for, let the car get rolling, then nail the throttle and the damn thing really does want to switch lanes on you

The only issue I noticed right away, other than the "torque steer," was the fact that the car lugs a bit right before coming to a stop. Once you are stopped the RPMs come back up, but right before stopping the RPMs are too low for my liking. I'll clean everything out related to idle, and change the trans fluid, but if that doesn't change anything I'll have to mess with the decel maps I think. Or something along those lines.

Anyway, I'll update how I feel about it, and if I run into any more funny business as we get some miles on the car.
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:37 PM   #2
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Nice.

I know I need better tires now that I have stage one on the Aero.
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:29 PM   #3
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find me a job in MN so I can move there and borrow our BDM.

nice work.
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Excellent. Now picture driving it with no rack clamp/brace/stock suspension & a "stage 4"...scary.
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I don't get what the big deal is with torque steer, other than lowering springs and poly sway bar endlink bushings my car has stock supsension, and it's stage 4, and it's not bad at all. I mean, sure, if you're not holding the wheel (why??) it will steer itself if you mash the gas pedal, but otherwise not too bad? Not saying you guys are making it up I just don't know what I'm missing.

I am supremely jealous that you have nearly free tuning though!
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I don't get what the big deal is with torque steer, other than lowering springs and poly sway bar endlink bushings my car has stock supsension, and it's stage 4, and it's not bad at all. I mean, sure, if you're not holding the wheel (why??) it will steer itself if you mash the gas pedal, but otherwise not too bad? Not saying you guys are making it up I just don't know what I'm missing.

I am supremely jealous that you have nearly free tuning though!
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Coming from my 9-5 Aero (what is this torque steer you speak of?) to my best friend's stage 3 Viggen (look up torque steer in the dictionary, and you see a viggen) I will tell you that its a night and day difference. Even with one hand firmly on the steering wheel (and the other one quickly moving off the gear shift back onto the steering wheel), the car has a mind of its own, sometimes its scary, especially in 2nd gear. Even with the steering brace and viggen rescue kit, its a huge difference in comparison to a vehicle that doesn't torque steer.
In the end though, as long as you're expecting the fight from the steering wheel, its manageable and fun as hell!
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:51 AM   #8
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Jk is this 9-3 the car you were talking about when you were selling the 900's?

Congrats,

How did your first official T5 Suite tune work out for you? Any hang-ups? Easily acquired bins?

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T7 suite would be way cool. Yes tq steer in the viggen can get a bit hairy coming out of a turn and mashing on it in second even with the rescue kit can get exciting
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Jk is this 9-3 the car you were talking about when you were selling the 900's?

Congrats,

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No, this is the 9-3 that we've had since 2003 or 2004 I think. This is the car my fiance drives on a regular basis.

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I don't get what the big deal is with torque steer, other than lowering springs and poly sway bar endlink bushings my car has stock supsension, and it's stage 4, and it's not bad at all. I mean, sure, if you're not holding the wheel (why??) it will steer itself if you mash the gas pedal, but otherwise not too bad? Not saying you guys are making it up I just don't know what I'm missing.

I am supremely jealous that you have nearly free tuning though!
It's not bad until you know what you are missing.
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At stage 4 jdinneen you should be all over no matter how strong you are at holding the wheel straight if you mash it in second. The torque brace is on my next to order list.



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Old 05-30-2008, 07:12 AM   #13
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i personally love my cars torque steer, it keeps it interesting and gives you a challenge. its kinda like driving a rwd car in the snow with performance tires. you just dont know exactly whats gonna happen and keeps you awake.
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There are times its fun but then there are times I wish it would keep itself planted in the lane.

Example: Other day semi decided I didn't exsist on a 3 lane highway and wanted to move over into the middle lane where I was. Dropped it into third and shot ahead just as he was getting ready to move over. I know I had to have scared the people in the lane next to me as my car lurched towards them.



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Old 05-30-2008, 07:28 AM   #15
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My old NG900 had been tuned by the PO in some unknown way (boosted well into the "red") - that thing had ridiculous torque steer, I remember one time I went to pass someone hard in second gear, I got on it and before I even went to steer into the left lane I was already in it
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:32 AM   #16
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Well, hopefully Jen does not get thrown for a loop

She drove the car to work today, she called to tell me that she finally got a nursing job and didn't say anything bad about the car (she'll usually call me if she gets a brake light out)...so it must be OK so far

She was the one complaining that it felt like the car didn't have any balls after she got used to it. She used to think it was a rocket back when she traded her Cavalier in for the 9-3
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Old 05-30-2008, 07:45 AM   #17
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She got a job?


SWEET!
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Congrats to your fiance Jessop.



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SWEET!
About time.

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Congrats to her man!

I wanna ride in the 9-3 to see what it feels like.
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So...I am staring at the innards of a tune right now.


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