I would like to verify a 94-97 na non turbo tranny will bolt right up to my 1995 turbo car, anyone know for sure?
I found a good price on a 100k na tranny and I know they have the 4.05 final drive that will help me drag racing. I have the new clutch coming from Nick, I want to try the na tranny.
I would like to verify a 94-97 na non turbo tranny will bolt right up to my 1995 turbo car, anyone know for sure?
I found a good price on a 100k na tranny and I know they have the 4.05 final drive that will help me drag racing. I have the new clutch coming from Nick, I want to try the na tranny.
I was pretty sure, I just ordered one with 105k, grade A part. My thinking is a na car one will not have been abused as much and with the better final drive, it might hold up a little longer.
This last one I bought had 150k and its ok, but when my clutch started slipping in second, I started having trouble getting it to go into third. At the end of the night and 4 runs, I could not get it to go into third without double clutching the car... Ran a 14.5 at 116mph
When I shift it slow and normal, it goes right in.... I am thinking the snchro is shot, so with new clutch, new tranny will get installed and beaten up at the track.... Come on 12's.....
From 99 on I think, at least from 99-03 maybe longer...
The ng 900 can run the 9-3 tranny, it bolts right up, just need the rear bracket for the motor mount and its a different mount, then its the hydraulic clutch vs cable...
All of the 9-3's had the 4.05 final drive. The v6 had a 4.45 final drive, but it does not bolt right up.
The viggen was also 4.05 final drive. The Later 9k's were also the same as the ng900 with a 3.82 final drive and the 1.12/1 third gear. The new quiafe 6 speed gear set will fit in the ng900, 94-98 9000 and 9-3....
One thing to consider is whether or not the NA tranny was built with the same stoutness as the turbo tranny, since the NA produces a lot less torque and HP it may have been a prime cost cutting candidate for Saab/GM. Guess you'll find out on the first launch
I asked about that and from I can tell, they are the same exact gears inside and the only difference is the final drive. My thinking was that the na car will have put much less stress and load on the tranny and I have never had one below 130k, so a nice 100k or even a 47k one I just found might be awesome.
I would like to do the 9-3 tranny, but then I need the rear bracket and mount and then need to convert to hydraulic... At the rate I am going through them, might just stick with a simple cable version, bolt up and go for 550.00
I asked Jak about doing this last year and he suggested not to. I want to anyway, and have the final drive to go into my tranny rebuild with the Quaife I'm getting.
You'll need a reflash of the ECU as well judging by what Nick said.
Exactly, no need to reflash the ecu just because you go to a different trans. Now if you wanted a custom tune to map power to match the gearing then yeah you would need a tune. If JZW finds he needs the tune reworked because the change of gearing makes it needed the I'm sure JZW and Jak will work on a good tune for it.
You can do it if you want but you don't really need to. If you feel that its made that much of a negative impact just ask for a reflash for a 99 og9-3 file.
However it wouldn't suprise me if the 99 og9-3 file (for the t5 cars) is the exact same file as the ng900 file.
i hate my shift up light, in 4th at 35mph it tells me to shift up but if you do then the car with shake cazzy. i want to get it shut off umtil 5500rmps.
so would the tranny swap affect that? would it cause a shift light to come on to soon?
9-3 gearbox is the best route it will be stronger. go for an fm55 box has stronger internals. you could go for a viggen box if you wanted it even stronger and change to viggen driveshafts.
I think you are right, get the stronger 9-3 gear box with better third gear and better final drive and then its a good reason to have a hydraulic clutch
I bet the spec pressure plate would be even worse than the viggen pp for the clutch cable to handle. Nothing worse than being stuck in traffic with a broken clutch cable.
Nick made a good point, I was thinking of that 15k 05- 93 tranny, but then why spend another 300-400 bucks on a tranny that will probably be lucky to last this race season.
If I was going to take it easy and not abuse the tranny, a nice low mileage one might be worth it, but since I plan to get a 12 in Denver, I will be putting the tranny through some abuse, might as well get the best deal on the lowest mile one and just go for it.
The nice 1999 47k one for 550 is looking pretty good...
The shift up light, as far as I know, just reads vacuum, the clutch pedal sensor, and the gear number. As long as the clutch is out and you're in gears 1,2,3, or 4, it will tell you to shift up if you're in a certain vacuum range, IE: you're not accelerating hard but you are giving it a little gas. Unless the 9k one works differently (running off the trans speed sensor) it wouldn't make any difference to change transmissions in any car as far as the shift light is concerned. It would simply still check the vacuum and what gear you're in.
That's all to the best of my knowledge, which may be flawed.
Picked up a 2000 9-3 tranny FM 507 with 4.05 final drive for 550.00.
It had the rear motor mount bracket and the motor mount, tranny mount and motor mount and the top hydraulic clutch adaptor piece and slave cylinder and shift linkage...
So, all I need now is the clutch pedal with master cylinder and the hard line from pedal to slave and the soft line from resivior to master cylinder.
It had 47k on the clock, came out of a b205 motor.
Looks line hard line is 72 bucks new and used clutch pedal and master cylinder is 185 from used parts store. So, about 257 in clutch parts and I will have a nice 9-3 tranny with hydraulic clutch No more clutch cable breakage worries.... Of course this time the clutch cable out lasted the tranny, tranny still works, just won't shift into third quickly, crunches
you will need the bulkhead plate aswell that the pedals and master cylinder mount too, unless you can modify the orginal? you cant on rhd cars.
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