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Old 05-13-2008, 06:52 PM   #1
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well when i installed my stage 4 parts it was a mess, i had to be done in a weekend and i could only work from 5pm to 12 on sat and sun. needless to say when i was trying to get all the pipe for the the IC to fit it was a painfull prosses and i made a few trips to pepboys to get some of the cheap rubber cupplings with the thought of just getting the better ones once i knew what i was going to need. well i just kept passing over them until yesterday i was working on fixing a boosting issue i was having.

so i was in 3ed at about 3k when i went WOT the car pulls hard then the w/m kicks in and it pulls even harder when POP..... no more boost...




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Old 05-13-2008, 06:55 PM   #2
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LOL wtf did you shoot it with?


I wonder why it popped right there? Manufacturing defect?
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:23 PM   #7
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Lol, that must have been funny... especially the noise that hose made when it let go.
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i think those are only meant for intake purposes, not boost. sorta like the furnco fittings you can get at home depot, they look like intercooler fittings, but they are definitely not.

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That is genuinely hilarious, such a perfect failure. It must have looked like a balloon before it went
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its funny now, but after i the pop i looked under the hood and the wya that was hooked up the hole was so i couldnt see it... i wasnt happy i was thinking the worst. but now i think its funny, i thought you guys might to.

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I love seeing those un-reinforced hoses on the dyno under boost.. The puff up really big.
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replacements...




if i pop that one then i think i have to go with all hard pipe. lol
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It's better than the blue one but it's still rubber, the Oem ones from saab are better than those cause they have inner woven meshing. Silicone ones are your best bet for durability.
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Yeah, boy, without the reinforcement fibers woven in there you might be looking at a repeat performance.
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It's better than the blue one but it's still rubber, the Oem ones from saab are better than those cause they have inner woven meshing. Silicone ones are your best bet for durability.
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that interwoven mesh makes a huge difference.
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Jonny, that pipe is thicker but it's still going to keep you up at night.

The main reason rubber pipes burst is heat.

They're more pliable when heated, and stretch more...and eventually pop undr pressure. (Nick's comments were right on the money.)

The major reason you use silicone is because it's heat resistant to 300+ degrees and keeps its shape. Find a decent three-ply silicone elbow for $30-40 and you'll never have to worry about it.
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Find a decent three-ply silicone elbow for $30-40 and you'll never have to worry about it.
where?

all i saw was some for $80+
the black one is from jegs.com, its made by turbonetics.
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Assuming you're using 2.5" piping, and your IC has 2.5 IN/OUT. Just to give you an example of what's out there. 3 or 4 ply silicone couplers. 4 ply being better. Just look at the angles you need and take it from there.

TB-Intake= 2.75-2.5
Intake-IC= 2.5-2.5
IC-Intake= 2.5-2.5
Intake-Turbo= 2.5-2.25? Check your turbo's size (if TD04 I think it's 2.25")

This was just a quick search, look into more and you'll figure it out.


Bottom Coupler attaches to IC : 2.5"-2.5"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-5-S...spagenameZWDVW

Top attaches to TB : 2.5"-2.75"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-DE...spagenameZWDVW
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Assuming you're using 2.5" piping, and your IC has 2.5 IN/OUT. Just to give you an example of what's out there. 3 or 4 ply silicone couplers. 4 ply being better. Just look at the angles you need and take it from there.

TB-Intake= 2.75-2.5
Intake-IC= 2.5-2.5
IC-Intake= 2.5-2.5
Intake-Turbo= 2.5-2.25? Check your turbo's size (if TD04 I think it's 2.25")

This was just a quick search, look into more and you'll figure it out.


Bottom Coupler attaches to IC : 2.5"-2.5"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-5-S...spagenameZWDVW

i have 3" pipe.
from the turbo to the IC is 2.5 then off the other side of the IC to the TB is all 3".


Top attaches to TB : 2.5"-2.75"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-DE...spagenameZWDVW
i have 3" pipe.
from the turbo to the IC is 2.5 then off the other side of the IC to the TB is all 3".
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Is this custom piping? Cause 3" is kinda big from posts I've read. Some people are running big hp with stock intakes and they are way smaller than 3". 2.5" I would think is more appropriate. Do a quick search on intakes there's lots of info on that subject.
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