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Old 04-01-2008, 08:02 AM   #1
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ETS FMIC Install help.

so i was deciding to get the fmic from ETS and i was just curious on how to install it. i have a 99 93 and that is a u-flow setup i believe, i was wondering if i need to buy intercooler piping, i talked to nick and he told me to purchase his hoses but they are way to expensive. i know theres another way to do this and would pay less than half the price of waht those hoses cost on GS. i talked to moose about this cause he has ETS himself. he said something about doing a little cutting by the radiater. but. yeah. if anybody has ETS Intercoolers could give me some advice? with pictures on how to install a intercooler in general that would be excellent. thank you.

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Ok the hoses you can either go with the viggen OEM which while expensive save you the headache of doing a custom setup which can be cheaper but its all about the time you have.

On a 99 9-3 there will be the punch out for where the hose would pass through on the passenger side. You'll see it plain as day when you have the bumper and old intercooler off. Just remove it.

From what I know you need to do some slight modding to the bumper bar with a hammer that has a rounded end to clear the endtanks.



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If you get the Forge, its almost as good as the ETS but it requires no modification to fit.
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If you get the Forge, its almost as good as the ETS but it requires no modification to fit.


I might need to get forge just the fact it bolts right now up i do want the ETS cause it a really nice core and big
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The Forge was a great fit on my Viggen. No modification needed at all.
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:40 AM   #6
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Yea but he will still need all the new pipes and such with the forge, you just don't have to notch the bumper.
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Ok the hoses you can either go with the viggen OEM which while expensive save you the headache of doing a custom setup which can be cheaper but its all about the time you have.

On a 99 9-3 there will be the punch out for where the hose would pass through on the passenger side. You'll see it plain as day when you have the bumper and old intercooler off. Just remove it.

From what I know you need to do some slight modding to the bumper bar with a hammer that has a rounded end to clear the endtanks.

what intercooler are you currently running brotha?
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I got some good pictures of the 'notching' of the radiator and the install. I will post them up tonight when I get home from work.

There was hardly anything that I had to do to get the ETS to fit in there nicely. A lot of you saw it at Carlisle last year.

The biggest thing is the hoses though. They are damn expensive for a little tubing. I originally used the elbows from the dual pass and the aluminum pipe that had the silencer in it to fab up a turbo exit to IC hose. You gotta clam the crap out of it cause increased boost likes to blow it apart...and roadside repairs with a crazy hot exhaust manifold arnt nice. I had these for about a month before I decided to get the hoses from genuine.
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I might need to get forge just the fact it bolts right now up i do want the ETS cause it a really nice core and big
It will bolt right up and the stock cross flow hoses will work, if you don't have a cross flow, you need the turbo side. I made mine out of a 90* elbow off turbo, 8" straight piece of hard pipe and a 45* elbow on the ic side, the other side uses stock hose.

The only thing you need to do to make it fit is take a die-grinder and mark the spot on the inner crash bar and grind it down a hair. then make sure the welds are flat and you are golden!

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Mark can you hook me up with some pics of ur FMIC that we awesome man!
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It will bolt right up and the stock cross flow hoses will work, if you don't have a cross flow, you need the turbo side. I made mine out of a 90* elbow off turbo, 8" straight piece of hard pipe and a 45* elbow on the ic side, the other side uses stock hose.

The only thing you need to do to make it fit is take a die-grinder and mark the spot on the inner crash bar and grind it down a hair. then make sure the welds are flat and you are golden!

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So im gonan have to do some cutting? ill hit up mark

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Yeah the fabbed up turbo exit was like 2 years ago, I'm gonna have to do some digging to find them.

You SHOULD get the updated 9-3 lower radiator hose. It seems like there was a mid year switch on the '99s and even some dual pass IC equipped cars got the newer hose. Its shaped to allow clearance for the Cross-Flow turbo exit hose.

Only about $11 from europarts.

You can manage without the IC to delivery pipe, just unbolt the delivery pipe from the head and rotate it down a few inches.
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I'm running the viggen core for now.



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i saw these on ebay. for 40 bucks would this work?
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There for a 9-5. Would need some modding but you could make it work I suppose if you really tried to.



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mine didn't need any grinding or moding to the bumper support. but when we installed Snow4_1man the other night the left side needs to have the bumper support pushed in a bit.
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hmm alright. alright then. so im going to need hoses no matter what right ? i cant just take off my stock on and just bolt on the new one? lol
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you can if you get the forge i believe, and thats still a step above a viggen intercooler
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i might get forge. since theres no hassle. i heard the forge is a great unit.
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i might get forge. since theres no hassle. i heard the forge is a great unit.
Do you or do you not have a 'Hot' model? The Hot model has the same IC as the viggen which is a cross flow IC. So if you have this car then you do not need any new pipes. If you do not have a 'Hot' model car then you do not have a cross flow ic. So no matter what after market IC you get weather it be ets, forge, etc you will still need those additional hoses.
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