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Old 03-06-2008, 01:21 PM   #1
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I'm changing my brake lines to performance ones, and was wondering what brake fluid would you guys recommend? Also, While changing the brake lines do i need to drain all the fluid from the car?

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Old 03-06-2008, 01:24 PM   #2
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you dont need to drain all the fluid, it will all come out on its own when you change the first line.

i would get ATE superblue.



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Old 03-06-2008, 01:43 PM   #3
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Anything 5.1 or better should be fine for street.

If you are tracking your car, look into the higher temp stuff, which is all 5.1 but there is a wide variety.
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you dont need to drain all the fluid, it will all come out on its own when you change the first line.

i would get ATE superblue.
Ditto on the Super blue.
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Ditto on the Super blue.
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...but bleed it out every year or two

the only problem with super blue is the wet boiling point....

I love it otherwise, and run it in two cars...
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:40 PM   #7
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DRY: 401F -- WET: 284F --- DOT3
DRY: 446F -- WET: 311F --- DOT4
DRY: 502F -- WET: 343F --- VALVOLINE SYNPOWER
DRY: 509F -- WET: 365F --- MOTUL 5.1
DRY: 527F -- WET: 302F --- AP RACING 551
DRY: 536F -- WET: 392F --- ATE SUPERBLUE/TYP200
DRY: 550F -- WET: 290F --- FORD HD
DRY: 590F -- WET: 410F --- AP RACING 600
DRY: 590F -- WET: 518F --- CASTROL SRF
DRY: 593F -- WET: 420F --- MOTUL RBF600
DRY: 610F -- WET: 421F --- NEO-SYNTHETIC SUPER DOT 610
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Um, ok.

New brake fluid for me then. As far as I know, mine is 2 years old or so.
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:48 PM   #9
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The valvoline synpower is pretty good and easy to find. If you are just driving streets it really won't matter.
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not only street but tracking too, superblue it is then...
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not only street but tracking too, superblue it is then...
What I would do is take a look at that chart, and whatever is the easiest to find of those with higher temps than the synpower I'd buy.

Some of that stuff may be more difficult to find than others. It also may cost much more.

If you are tracking, remember to bleed your brakes after each event.
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i just bought ate last weekend. going put it in this weekend. when you bleed it out you do left front, right rear, right front, left rear?
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Start soaking your connections with power lube or something now. And if you round off the hard lines, the parts are all pretty cheap to replace.
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What I would do is take a look at that chart, and whatever is the easiest to find of those with higher temps than the synpower I'd buy.

Some of that stuff may be more difficult to find than others. It also may cost much more.

If you are tracking, remember to bleed your brakes after each event.
Why do you need to Bleed after a tracking event ?
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I'm guessing any moisture that may be in the system would boil causing overpressure in the system. Possibly bubbles.
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Why do you need to Bleed after a tracking event ?
You typically boil the fluid at a good track event unless you have some pretty beefy brakes, and I don't like the feel of a super mushy pedal.

I guess I should say most important would be to make sure you have fresh fluid before the events.
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You typically boil the fluid at a good track event unless you have some pretty beefy brakes, and I don't like the feel of a super mushy pedal.

I guess I should say most important would be to make sure you have fresh fluid before the events.
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I have EBC slotted/dimpled rotors with EBC greenstuff pads (might change these to reds) and stainless steel brake lines. I am very happy with the setup. Should be good for the track
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I have EBC slotted/dimpled rotors with EBC greenstuff pads (might change these to reds) and stainless steel brake lines. I am very happy with the setup. Should be good for the track
If you are driving hard I'd say you will likely boil the fluid. If you haven't done track before, it becomes apparently obvious (pretty fast) how poor the stock brakes are.
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99saabnut just added ate rotors, redstuff pads, super blue, and goodrich lines to his car. He may have an opinion on the set up.
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